Originally Posted by matrussell122

Kraken even uses the same manifold for both because why wouldn't you. It cuts down on setup costs, is efficient and smart. You would be an idiot to make a t25 no-efr compatible manifold in the year 2019.

Originally Posted by Savington

Not really. There are design elements in our manifold which are difficult to see in photos, and those were not adequately copied (flange angles). The basic design of our manifold was very specific to optimize placement of a very specific turbo into a Miata engine bay. Those dimensional optimizations are actually a detriment to total system flow (albeit slight). If we were trying to fit a standard T25 in the engine bay, our manifold would look completely different. Thus, there would be no reason for another company to utilize those same design elements if they were not optimizing for the same specific turbo as we were. And yet, Kraken's manifold uses those exact same design elements, despite not being designed around the same turbo. That is not coincidental.

So you can choose to believe that they designed a manifold from scratch which inexplicably hampers flow for no reason, or you can choose to believe that they saw a picture of my manifold and used substantial portions of its design to create theirs.

I have had multiple phone calls from other vendors in the industry asking if I licensed the design to them, if that's any indication of how others feel about it.

Originally Posted by Kraken

If I copied anyone then it would be FlyinMiata and if I copied anything it would be their way of thinking. Its a bit sad to me that you know very well due to casting limitations runner and collector can only have one design, yet you come here and type some sad stuff about stuff that you clearly know it isnt true. If you are wondering I wanted a manifold that is strong, flows well enough and it doesnt look like its hanging 1ft off the engine, the photo bellow just shows that



The manifold was made primarily because traders wanted 1000usd+ tax + shipping for a decent header, kinda said I can do better for cheaper so here we are







Michael