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Old 12-21-2008, 01:34 AM   #1
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Default Patsmx5's Intercooler Install *56K, no.*

I'll write more about it later. For now, I'll let the pics do the talking. But the jist is this will have short, simple charge pipes, nothing hangs down low, no pipes under my radiator, 4 couplers, all factory plastic **** fits with no modifications including the under tray, no visible FMIC for stealth (main reason I did all this), used all factory mounting points to fasten it, etc. 20x12x3 core. Only "bad" is I cut up the car to make room for the pipes. I don't care, but some wouldn't do it. Haven't made the charge pipes yet. Kinda need to put the engine in first...

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Old 12-21-2008, 02:09 AM   #2
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looks great man, I have something similar that I am thinking of, but more along the lines of the tdr setup
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That's one hell of an intercooler. Looking very good so far. Did you make those upper radiator brackets?
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:11 AM   #5
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that looks like a good start to a badass setup. Didn't you use to run direct port nitrous?
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Right on! I'm glad to see another person not afraid to do some cutting to get a really nice piping route. I've only seen a few others do this so far.
Seriously, you won't regret the work. It's a fantastically simple and short piping route this way and you will be running the awesome 12x18x3.
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Some of us have headlights there. Boo headlights.

Looks good.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:38 AM   #8
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That's one hell of an intercooler. Looking very good so far. Did you make those upper radiator brackets?
Hahaha. That's funny. Yeah, I made all those aluminum brackets in the pics.

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that looks like a good start to a badass setup. Didn't you use to run direct port nitrous?
Yeah, I had a 100 shot direct port on it before. Sold it and am building a turbo setup now.

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Right on! I'm glad to see another person not afraid to do some cutting to get a really nice piping route. I've only seen a few others do this so far.
Seriously, you won't regret the work. It's a fantastically simple and short piping route this way and you will be running the awesome 12x18x3.
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(some things in that pic have changed but you can see the IC setup)
You gave me the idea. Then I started measuring and figured out I should be able to keep my headlights on my NB with a 20x12x3 core IC.
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Old 12-21-2008, 05:33 PM   #9
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Looking good Pat. Looking foward to seeing how well it runs. You should bring it over to Houston this summer.
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what happens when you overheat with your stock radiator? looks like the radiator end caps protrude over the intercooler. Do you have room for an all aluminum unit?
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what happens when you overheat with your stock radiator? looks like the radiator end caps protrude over the intercooler. Do you have room for an all aluminum unit?
It won't overheat unless he autocrosses. I doubt he is planning on doing that with a turbo that big. Correct me if I am wrong Pat.

Drag Race won't put enough heat in the car for it to matter. Street cooling will be no different then before.
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let me know how those intake temps are when your done with the set up.... i mean its nicely done but impractical kinda. its in between the condenser and the rad thats heat central. if anything take out the condenser or mount it in front of it. like the fact that IC pipes are short but not the best place to put the intercooler. just look at factory turbo cars IC is always in front or side mount and those guys that work at the factory ant no dummys. they put hours in development and testing... intake temps are a lil more important than a/c. and u may not use the a/c while boosting it but thats air restriction when not needed. ive seen similar set up but with out the condenser and always curious on there intake temps.. log them when u get a chance. nice work
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:08 PM   #13
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Looking good Pat. Looking foward to seeing how well it runs. You should bring it over to Houston this summer.
I will. To break in the built motor after I build it.
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what happens when you overheat with your stock radiator? looks like the radiator end caps protrude over the intercooler. Do you have room for an all aluminum unit?
To run an all aluminum radiator I'd have to modify the lower mounts back ~1" and redo the upper mounts I made. Don't plan to fix it unless it overheats.
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let me know how those intake temps are when your done with the set up.... i mean its nicely done but impractical kinda. its in between the condenser and the rad thats heat central. if anything take out the condenser or mount it in front of it. like the fact that IC pipes are short but not the best place to put the intercooler. just look at factory turbo cars IC is always in front or side mount and those guys that work at the factory ant no dummys. they put hours in development and testing... intake temps are a lil more important than a/c. and u may not use the a/c while boosting it but thats air restriction when not needed. ive seen similar set up but with out the condenser and always curious on there intake temps.. log them when u get a chance. nice work
Yeah, it's what I want. Not ideal from a racing or max HP standpoint. To me, A/C is more important than intake temps. So is a quiet car. And stealth. I'm weird.
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innovative, nice
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i hear you on the stealth thing...... but if the engine blows cuz of intake temps u cant blow cold a/c with a blown engine... but anyways log those intake temps im curious to see what u get
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i hear you on the stealth thing...... but if the engine blows cuz of intake temps u cant blow cold a/c with a blown engine... but anyways log those intake temps im curious to see what u get
I would find great humor if Pat blew his motor and came to find that the "Root Cause" was high inlet air temps.

Just because Pat got beat by Hustler to install a turbo, doesn't make him incompetent.
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Yeah, I'll post my intake temps when it's on the road. I'm sure it won't help being 5/16 of an inch from the radiator. But once the car is moving, there will be airflow and very little heat will be able to radiate from the radiator to the IC. My old intake was a filter by the header. 60*F above ambient was "normal" when cruising. So if this is any lower than that, I'll be happy.

And Mike, he might have beat me to actually turboing the car, but mine will be faster.
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I would find great humor if Pat blew his motor and came to find that the "Root Cause" was high inlet air temps.

Just because Pat got beat by Hustler to install a turbo, doesn't make him incompetent.
hey man take it easy! did not say the man was incompetent, just did not agree with intercooler location. that was just my thought and just ask to see what was the end result when he gets it done..... and ive seen intake temps blow a couple of race engines in the field... dont sleep on those compensation and those intake temps. anyways good luck with the build.. how much u plan on putting down??
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what happens when you overheat with your stock radiator? looks like the radiator end caps protrude over the intercooler. Do you have room for an all aluminum unit?
He had an all aluminum Koyo. It's in my shop now.

Looking good Pat. I still haven't decided how I'm going to go. Finish up so I can make up my mind.
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That is looking great Pat, too bad us NA guys have headlights in the way.
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