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triple88a 03-18-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by 94LagunaR (Post 990719)
If running 5-7psi, would I need anything for fuel other than the voodoo.

Yes a garbage big enough to fit that and ur motor in after you melt the pistons. Get a real ecu and move on.

94LagunaR 03-18-2013 01:07 PM

Hmm, I was running 12psi on my sc 96 with ELF piggyback for 30k+ miles and no melted pistons..

94LagunaR 03-22-2013 02:26 PM

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What is this stupid piece of s*** metal canister right here in the way of my intercooler? I've never seen this on another miata, can I get rid of it?
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Maybe this should be turned into a build thread but I'm guessing the mods are the ones who have to move it

triple88a 03-22-2013 02:35 PM

The canister looks like the AC canister. My guess is you'll also find a thin 1/2" "radiator" in front of the regular radiator. What manifold is that?

94LagunaR 03-22-2013 02:43 PM

Yes that's exactly it. I was wondering what that was if there was an oil cooler or what? It's completely in my way of intercooler mounting and the mani is s4 begi. The guy showed me his emails between him and begi including where they didnt ship him the downpipe he ordered for over a year, where he then cancelled his order and waited another year for a refund

94LagunaR 03-22-2013 03:36 PM

Anyways what can I do about this canister? Its completely in my way for the intercooler. Ive pushed the lines and cannister to the left as much as I can and its still in the way

concealer404 03-22-2013 03:40 PM

Become a man and remove your a/c.

triple88a 03-22-2013 03:43 PM

On mine i had to bend it to the side however my intercooler had enough room. If ur intercooler is too long youre SOL. That said i ended up taring one of the lines and will be removing the ac and the power steering when the weather allows.

94LagunaR 03-22-2013 05:39 PM

After a couple hours of beginning to take on this project with my novice skill level i've realized that 1. I'm going to need to read a LOT more build threads and 2. This manifold is very obviously not going to work with the a/c

94LagunaR 03-22-2013 05:44 PM

Oh and these stock fans are completely in the way as well

triple88a 03-22-2013 05:46 PM

Run the pipes through the fenders? I think 18psi and few others are running it this way.

94LagunaR 03-22-2013 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 992774)
Run the pipes through the fenders? I think 18psi and few others are running it this way.

Oh that's a good idea. A lot of the threads pictures dont work. Would I basically drill a large hole it the wheel well in the engine bay or directly behind the headlight like 18psi (although slightly different since mines an NA) and route it like that? I guess that would work but not with these pipes I got. Ill have to get more. Would you recommend heat shielding the a/c compressor (and lines?) Do all miatas with a/c have the canister and thin radiator in front of the regular radiator?Would this affect flow to the radiator even worse with the intercooler rather than not having a/c? Sorry for the super noob questions, this is my first experience with a turbo ever

BTMiata 03-22-2013 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by 94LagunaR (Post 992819)
Oh that's a good idea. A lot of the threads pictures dont work. Would I basically drill a large hole it the wheel well in the engine bay or directly behind the headlight like 18psi (although slightly different since mines an NA) and route it like that? I guess that would work but not with these pipes I got. Ill have to get more. Would you recommend heat shielding the a/c compressor (and lines?) Do all miatas with a/c have the canister and thin radiator in front of the regular radiator?Would this affect flow to the radiator even worse with the intercooler rather than not having a/c? Sorry for the super noob questions, this is my first experience with a turbo ever

Yes all miata's with a/c have dryer's (Canister) and condenser's (small radiator's). In fact all a/c systems in general have these components and they are usually located in locations similar to the miata.

18psi 03-22-2013 09:33 PM

I hope the seller showed you a receipt or proof that what you bought is indeed a genuine s4 and not the ebay knockoff.

Seriously.

94LagunaR 03-22-2013 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 992825)
I hope the seller showed you a receipt or proof that what you bought is indeed a genuine s4 and not the ebay knockoff.

Seriously.

He showed me emails regarding the transaction with them, yes. I asked about it to make sure or I wouldnt have bought it

triple88a 03-22-2013 10:32 PM

you should have just asked begi what gauge the pipes are and measured them. Thats the only true way to know as how do u know he isnt selling a knock off and running the begi manifold or whatever. Anyways i cannot give any info on the fender intercooler setup as i've never dug into that area. Mine is an over the rad setup and would do it again because of how neat and solid it came out.

94LagunaR 03-23-2013 02:45 AM

Hes not running turbo hes runnimg hi comp pistons and going with itbs. Ill measure the piping and ask begi but I saw the emails so I assume its legit. If not I can get my money back I didnt pay the full amoumt yet just a down payment and he let me hold onto some parts. And when I pay the rest he will give me the rest of the parts like voodoo box, bipes, turbo, oil lines and fittings, etc.

triple88a 03-23-2013 03:06 PM

i'd msg begi ask for what size pipe they use and measure it. It wont hurt anything to confirm.

94LagunaR 03-24-2013 08:43 PM

Okay so I want to run megasquirt obviously but at this point i dont feel that i need the best system as my goals are very moderate (180-225whp) for the time being with the possibility of upping it to the stock internals' limits. I am wondering if the MS1 will be sufficient for my needs. Obviously the MS2 or MS# would be better, but I'm on a really tight budget and the MS! was sufficient at one time for this so I'm wondering if you guys would reccomend the MS1 as a standalone to run my car. I'm looking for the basic fuel and timing control, as well as ease of tuning for a noob like me (i've never tuned an ecu before and have absolutely no knowledge about doing so) and possibly knock sensing. I was thinking of running MBC, but if this computer has EBC I might go ahead and do that after I get the feel for what I'm doing, but I feel like the MS1 would be a much better potion than running the Voodoo box with Bipes or MSD. So, would you guys reccomend this system MegaSquirt-I Programmable EFI System PCB3.0 - Kit w/ BLACK CASE DIYAutoTune.com to be run as a standalone or would you reccomend against doing so. Like I said, the MS2 is out of my budget for the time being, but from what I've read the MS1 can be upgraded to MS2 if I wanted to. My good friend builds motherboards for electric scooters as well as for his own use in gardening and hydroponic systems and such, so he has agreed to assemble the unit if I decide to go that route, so I can save some money over the pnp unit. Any input from yall would be great, and the MS seems like the best option for power to tune my car as well s support from so many people on here that are running it over another system like Link, Hydra (which is obviously WAY out of my budget) etc. Thanks for any suggestions guys

triple88a 03-25-2013 12:19 AM

With the price tag of MS2, theres no point to go MS1

Its more about drivability rather than extras.


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