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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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So, right now, I've got a begi cast mani, gt2860, and begi downpipe. I've got a t3 flanged, externally gated turbo that I'm going to upgrade to. I can make the downpipe, that's a non-issue. The manifold, however, needs something done. The bell manifolds use the same casting for t2 or t3 manifolds. They just drill/cut it for the specific flange. I have access to a mill, and I know someone that can weld cast iron.
So, the question is, should I modify my existing manifold for a t3 flange and an external wastegate? Or should i just sell it and buy a new one?
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Brain is looking to swap from T3 to T2. Maybe you could trade manifold/downpipes with him?
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Originally Posted by clay
Brain is looking to swap from T3 to T2. Maybe you could trade manifold/downpipes with him?
He has a 1.6L
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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youre going to put an external wastegate flange on youre BEGi manifold?
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
youre going to put an external wastegate flange on youre BEGi manifold?
Yes, I was thinking about it.
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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I wnat to do the same thing to mine, but Im scared, lol
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wes65
He has a 1.6L
aw failboat.


fwiw, begi can machine your T2 manifold out to a T3.
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Search some old threads by "PatsMX5", he did everything your talking about and came out pretty clean.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
aw failboat.


fwiw, begi can machine your T2 manifold out to a T3.
Yeah, I talked to corky about that. That's not really the part I'm concerned about. That should be fairly easy. Its the EWG part I'm more concerned about. I've not heard great things about welding to cast iron.
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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I spoke to Corky about this too. He's never seen a failure yet. I'll be doing the same.
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
I spoke to Corky about this too. He's never seen a failure yet. I'll be doing the same.
A failure of what, the EWG weld or the T2->T3 conversion?
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EWG flange weld.
Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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So is your GT2860 for sale then?
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
EWG flange weld.
I've personally seen photos of a cracked EWG weld on a BEGi S5 manifold.
Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Savington
I've personally seen photos of a cracked EWG weld on a BEGi S5 manifold.
Do you think having the wastegate hang off the DP flange would prove more reliable than welding to cast? Or held on w/ bolts like the FM3:




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The FM3 setup would be ideal, with a flange cast into the manifold. Hanging an EWG off the DP is just foolish - all of the downsides of an EWG (cost, weight) with none of the benefit.
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FM3 EWG flange is not cast into the manifold. It's bolted on. From others experiences, I've heard the bolts would loosen similar to the turbo-manifold bolts issue.
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
FM3 EWG flange is not cast into the manifold. It's bolted on. From others experiences, I've heard the bolts would loosen similar to the turbo-manifold bolts issue.
No problem here. Just regular tightening checks like any normal maintenance.
Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
I've personally seen photos of a cracked EWG weld on a BEGi S5 manifold.
Isn't the s5 tubular?
Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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No, the S4 and S6 are.

Its about as confusing at video card model denominations.
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