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Old 04-19-2010, 12:51 PM   #1
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Default V-Band Flanges for Tial housing

One of my friends has a GT2871R with tial V-band housing on the way.
Can one of you guys that have one of these let me know what size v-bands the inlet and outlet is?
Also, are all v-band flanges the same? In other words, will a 3" v-band flange from company X ti with a v-band flange from company y?
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I have no clue what the size is, but not all v-bands are the same. There are a few different designs to them. Some use different style clamps, and a few even require a very thin gasket.
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I have no clue what the size is, but not all v-bands are the same. There are a few different designs to them. Some use different style clamps, and a few even require a very thin gasket.
So if that's the case, do you need tial v-band flanges to fit the tial v-band turbo?
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Yes, you need the tial specific vbands for the housing.
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Yes, you need the tial specific vbands for the housing.
truth. The TiAL v-bands have a male/female version due to the groove...and worth the money.
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Good **** to know... I will be sure to send Burns one when they build my merge collector.
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Good **** to know... I will be sure to send Burns one when they build my merge collector.
Turbo Timmy used TiAL v-bands on my dp of course and I used v-band flanges from silicone intakes on the rest of the exhaust. All are sealed, but the TiAL flanges take a little more care to get lined-up, but fit right every time. Make sure you send the right flange of course, I believe the turbo is female on the inlet and the outlet.
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Thanks hustler. I have been contact with Burns and Tial last week so getting verification on the Tial shouldn't be a problem. I will post upon verification...
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They use 3" Flanges and clamps.
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They use 3" Flanges and clamps.
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Turbo inlet is smaller than 3".
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Got this from Tial last week via our e-mail communications... Enjoy.
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Ohh mutherfer. Get the entire turbine housing solid model while you're at it.
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Turbo inlet is smaller than 3".
The last 4 manifolds we built used that size. The inlet and outlet are the same size, but use different clamps and flanges. Those were for GT2860, GT2871, and GT30 turbos. I call Tial, tell them what I need, and they tell me what to order. I try to make it as dummy proof as possible.

When I order parts from TiAL, this is what I have to order:
VBF300M 3" Weld on Outlet Flange
VC355 3" Outlet Clamp
VC300 3" Inlet Clamp
GTVFL3.0 3" Weld On Inlet Flange

According to my price sheets, the GT28/30/35 turbos all use the above flanges and clamps. The GT42/45 turbos go up to a 4" clamp and flange.
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You forgot to end your post with something to rub it in, for example: BURN, or IN YOUR FACE ******!

This is Hustler we are talking about.
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Very true, but I am learning the "high road". If I fall off the wagon, I have to admit my sins, apologize for them, etc. Entirely too much trouble.
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The last 4 manifolds we built used that size. The inlet and outlet are the same size, but use different clamps and flanges. Those were for GT2860, GT2871, and GT30 turbos. I call Tial, tell them what I need, and they tell me what to order. I try to make it as dummy proof as possible.

When I order parts from TiAL, this is what I have to order:
VBF300M 3" Weld on Outlet Flange
VC355 3" Outlet Clamp
VC300 3" Inlet Clamp
GTVFL3.0 3" Weld On Inlet Flange

According to my price sheets, the GT28/30/35 turbos all use the above flanges and clamps. The GT42/45 turbos go up to a 4" clamp and flange.
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VBF300M is the inlet flange to the turbine. Outer diameter of the vband itself is 3.000 inch and uses that VC300 clamp for, yeah, a 3" outer diameter vband. ID is around 2-2.125, it's conical. The turbine outlet flange is that GTVFL3.0, which is for a 3" pipe. The outer diameter I do not know for sure, but I will assume it's...3.550". I'll let you guess where I figured that info from I'll guess the ID is 2.910. They ain't the same size. BURNZZZZZ!

EDIT #8: You guys made 4 vband mani's so far? Damn I better step my game up.
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The last 4 manifolds we built used that size. The inlet and outlet are the same size, but use different clamps and flanges. Those were for GT2860, GT2871, and GT30 turbos. I call Tial, tell them what I need, and they tell me what to order. I try to make it as dummy proof as possible.

When I order parts from TiAL, this is what I have to order:
VBF300M 3" Weld on Outlet Flange
VC355 3" Outlet Clamp
VC300 3" Inlet Clamp
GTVFL3.0 3" Weld On Inlet Flange

According to my price sheets, the GT28/30/35 turbos all use the above flanges and clamps. The GT42/45 turbos go up to a 4" clamp and flange.
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I stand corrected. I never measured but the outlet parts sure look bigger than the inlet.
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The outer diameter I do not know for sure, but I will assume it's...3.550". I'll let you guess where I figured that info from
I could very well be wrong. I copy and paste info from Tial price sheets.
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Ohh mutherfer. Get the entire turbine housing solid model while you're at it.
I will see what I can do...

Edit: E-mail sent... I will post when I hear back. No go on that schematic. Just told me the flanges for the turbine housing were identical except it was the female rather than the male. I tried...

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turbine inlet and turbine outlet flanges are not the same. Not even close. Sorta like saying BEGI's 3" downpipe is 3". OHH DAYUMM BBUUURNNNZZZZZEZEZZZZZZ! hehehe just bustin ***** steph

Each corresponding pair of flanges are the same obviously, one having a male lip and the other a female counterbore. The female end of each flange is part of the turbine housing.
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