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Old 10-27-2009, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default What turbos are td05?

The turbo manifold I'm looking at getting requires a td05 flange. I know of a few but ithink I'm missing some. Here's what I got. Thanks for your input
dsm 14b
dsm 16g
Nissan t25
Nissan t28
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Nissan t25/28 is not a td05 flange, its a T2.
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td05 are in first generation TSi Talons/Eclipses
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Ok my confusion on the nissans guess I'm obligated to a dsm turbo then
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The dsm t25 that came on the second gen gts/gsx also has a Mitsu flange, with the added bonus of not needing an outlet adapter for your I/C pipes. Could be a good choice for <200whp car. Most of my friends with DSMs practically give them away

Edit: Being locked into a DSM turbo isn't a bad thing. Bullseye Power makes turbine housings that are DSM flanged for garret CHRAs. There are also a couple of companies that offer up to a 20g in a TD05H wheel. (Sidenote: TD05H = turbine wheel, not flange)
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Am I the only one that thinks its stupid to build your whole setup around a manifold flange? Shouldn't you first pick a turbo that will suit your power/performance needs and THEN EVERYTHING ELSE?
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Am I the only one that thinks its stupid to build your whole setup around a manifold flange? Shouldn't you first pick a turbo that will suit your power/performance needs and THEN EVERYTHING ELSE?
not really for the average dyi guy on a budget the mitsu turbo is ideal the design is over 20 years old there millions of them out there and companies have made aftermaket parts for years so there is used parts for cheap. as for power/performance the dsm turbos have you coverd from a 13g all the way up to god knows what i have seen way back in the day puppy 16gs which were 14bs with 16g wheels in them hell i even have a turbo that the hotside is a 20g td06 housing coldside is a garret 57 trim t3 came off a dsm i picked up a coulpe years ago.
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I'm not against the mitsu turbo's. I'm just saying I don't think its smart to have your manifold flange type be the deciding factor about which turbo to use in your car.
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Am I the only one that thinks its stupid to build your whole setup around a manifold flange? Shouldn't you first pick a turbo that will suit your power/performance needs and THEN EVERYTHING ELSE?
Not when you can get DSM flanged turbos ranging from a small t25, to a hx35/40, or as big as a 66mm inducer 800whp capable borg warner
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Am I the only one that thinks its stupid to build your whole setup around a manifold flange? Shouldn't you first pick a turbo that will suit your power/performance needs and THEN EVERYTHING ELSE?
+1

I did this...and kick myself nearly every day for it. Ever try to find upgrade options for an IHI RHB5 3991 compressor wheel?
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I did this...and kick myself nearly every day for it. Ever try to find upgrade options for an IHI RHB5 3991 compressor wheel?
sounds like a personal problem. if you had "locked" yourself into a mitsu. flanged turbo, you would have literally dozens of sizes of turbo's to choose from and parts and accesories would be easier to locate than crack at whitney's mansion.

this is just a third of what's available to bolt on to a mitsu. flange manifold. like someone said, least expensive would be a used 2gen dsm turbo (t25) that can be found as low as $50-75 dollars. full boost with that turbo would be available just off idle and is good up to 10-14psi.

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I'm not against the mitsu turbo's. I'm just saying I don't think its smart to have your manifold flange type be the deciding factor about which turbo to use in your car.
That's how I started my first build and it was the worst idea ever. I had same requirements as OP, td05, and I ended up getting a DSM T25 (which was hard has hell to find). Bought it off ebay, let it sit for about 6 months while I collected part, went and did the install, and the turbo was totally screwed.

I ordered a new 16G with small turbine from a local turbo shop, put it on, had to change all my charge pipe because turbo was set up way differently, it ran and idled fine, put it on the dyno, the vacuum line controlling my wastegate was pinched, 16g turbo spiked to 20lbs, cylinder 4 disintegrated. I couldn't find a long nose 1.6, so I went with a 97 1.8, and started everything over, because i couldn't find a manifold with td05 to fit my 1.8.


So yes, I totally agree with not letting your manifold decide which turbo to use. Do the resesarch, then buy the parts.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way

I mean if it works out for OP that's great. I just think its safer to plan out your build first, and start with the turbo that fits your needs, instead of a turbo that fits the manifold.
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Am I the only one that thinks its stupid to build your whole setup around a manifold flange? Shouldn't you first pick a turbo that will suit your power/performance needs and THEN EVERYTHING ELSE?
i agree with this. But i think with all the cars that came with a factory t3 it doesn't make much sense to base a diy turbo setup around a mitsu turbo.
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sounds like a personal problem. if you had "locked" yourself into a mitsu. flanged turbo, you would have literally dozens of sizes of turbo's to choose from and parts and accesories would be easier to locate than crack at whitney's mansion.

this is just a third of what's available to bolt on to a mitsu. flange manifold. like someone said, least expensive would be a used 2gen dsm turbo (t25) that can be found as low as $50-75 dollars. full boost with that turbo would be available just off idle and is good up to 10-14psi.

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My point exactly...and I only commenting so that others wouldn't make a poor decision that became their "personal" problem.

I bought mine as a kit...and was "stuck" with this oddball manifold flange and a turbo that runs out of breath up top.

I actually have all the parts now to switch to a more conventional T25 setup...but don't have the time or money to make it happen. The T25/T28 options are very enticing to me coming from a baby turbo.

The point remains however that anyone that can afford to should pick their turbo line first...then the supporting parts.
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JerryMouse4U, ok your seriously lucky I'm not a mod, you posted like 20 useless one word or so things in the past 5 min
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