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Old 12-29-2007, 05:01 PM   #1
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Sending the car off to BEGI end of Jan. Their installing the S4 system and using my 94 as a test mule. They will be using their Xede for the testing.

I have 2 ways to go.

1. Get it back from them with the Xede piggy tuned and ready to run. Drive home 2200 miles with no worries. Car is a daily driver, I don't have much time to fool around tuning and tweaking so this sounds good.

2. Have them use the car, but they install the Link full replacement I already have at the end. They won't tune it. Hope the base map is OK and drive to FM. They are pretty much on my way home anyway. 2 hours on the dyno and I'll have 2 tunes, one for driving - one for DEQ.

Xede advantage is simplicity and getting it tuned at no cost. I can sell my Link system for about the same cost so price isn't an issue. The car is a daily driver and this should be a simple, reliable piggy system. Corky seems to really like it. Don't know if that's because he's right or if it's because it's simpler and he's a machinist, not a tuner.

Link advantage is it's well documented and sorted out by FM. It's a full replacement ecu and has more control. Has a knock sensor, wideband inputs, runs a boost controller and eliminates the MAF. Dissavantage it may take more time/ tweaking on my part, some extra cost for tuning at FM, having to deal with 2 vendors.

I'm not gonna go MS. I simply don't have the time, knowledge or inclination to work with it. The Xede is the easiest for me obviously, but the link is a well sorted out system even though it's old news. FM's support is a plus, even though most of us don't like them much, they do know the link.

Whatta you guru's think?
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there's no Link advantage (Like FM will help you with problems anyways), keep the Xede installed with a good tune.
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i'm certainly no guru but I'd say go with the Xede for now since they'll be tuning it for you. Then you won't have to worry about it. If you want the advantages of a full ECU later skip the Link and go with MS or something else when you have more time for tuning.
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Between those 2 options, 100% get the Xede installed and tuned by BEGi.

I would NOT NOT NOT get a Link tuned by FM. The tune will be fairly worthless at "standard" altitude.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:25 PM   #5
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2 mods say Xede! I'm starting to hear the voice of God.... Get the Xede, Get the Xede...

Guess I'll have a link to sell.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:22 AM   #6
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Get the Xede. That way you can send me a copy of a map for a 94, dyno tuned in house by BEGI for my 94 without me having to go to Texas! Ha ha...

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lol if you want a link lemme know i have one for sale lol with map sensor and installed and good to go
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Already have a link full ecu with boost control, knock sensor, keypad, and every conceivable option. Gonna be selling that off I guess.

MX5Jon,

No problem sending you my maps! Just don't know if they'll apply to your build. They're installing the S4 system with a GT2860rs, 2.5" exhaust with race cat and 550's. If my the tune they create can help others, great!
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My Xede Base MAP got me 211RWHP without tuning. (11PSI) After tuning, 223RWHP. (Still needed a bit more tuning.) Now at 12.5-13PSI I get 244-255RWHP. (98 Octane) (All with a MAF still in place.) Pretty good for a piggy back. I will have some nice dyno sheets up after some 15PSI tuning in January. I wanna break 260 and be done with it. The Xede gives me a Solid Idle, and the software is nice. Not to mention wideband integration, and EBC are on the way. BEGI is very responsive too. Even there on the weekends.
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Let's all chant together....

XXXXXX EEEEEDDDDEEEE

XXXXXX EEEEEEDDDDEEEE

Good to know people have good things to say about it.

Drewbroo, Which turbo did you go with on your S3 system? With the S4 system I'm hoping to make similar power - 240/ 250 - on pump gas with the GT2860RS. It's a daily driver and track day car, I don't want to push limits of reliability too much. Glad you've had a good experience. I've got nothing but good responses from BEGI with all my coorespondence and parts I've bought in the past.

Savington, Braineack, Ben, Thanks for the suggestion of Xede and not pushing for the MS. I'm not savvy enough to get into my own programming. Don't have the time either!
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. . . Braineack . . . Thanks for the suggestion of Xede and not pushing for the MS. . .
Sell the Xede and Link and I'll build you a cheap MS.

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Xede when you get time MS

Damn brain beat me by 3 minutes
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Xede when you get time MS

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SavingtonBraineackBenThanks for the suggestion of Xede and not pushing for the MS
I had to throw that in since I hadn't taken any crap at all for wanting the easy way out with the xede! I knew that'd get some reaction.
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Good to know people have good things to say about it.

Drewbroo, Which turbo did you go with on your S3 system? With the S4 system I'm hoping to make similar power - 240/ 250 - on pump gas with the GT2860RS. It's a daily driver and track day car, I don't want to push limits of reliability too much. Glad you've had a good experience. I've got nothing but good responses from BEGI with all my coorespondence and parts I've bought in the past.

Savington, Braineack, Ben, Thanks for the suggestion of Xede and not pushing for the MS. I'm not savvy enough to get into my own programming. Don't have the time either!
I have the GT2860RS with a S3 manifold, you should make better power than me. My car is a DD car too. Hence why i have turned the boost down to 10PSI.
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I say the exede will be 100% what you need man. GL and when you need or want more you will be in a better position to go MS later. GL.
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Drewbroo,

Nice. Sounds like we'll have similar setups other than the Mani. Good to know you like it!

Magna, When I get bored with the 240-250 I'll have I'll have to look at building a motor. Hopefully I won't get bored for a few years yet! I'll get in enough trouble as it is.
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