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Patiofurnituregt 07-25-2009 04:18 AM

Meth injected TB relocated M45 190whp 170tq
 
Tuned on AEM EMS w/ MAP sensor, and AEM meth injection using 100% meth and medium nozzle. Custom intake and TB relocation with BOV. Header back exhaust, stock 5psi pulley. Colder iridiums gapped at .030". Stock injectors and fuel pump.

Turbo's eat your heart out!!! just look at that torque curve/ line....lol

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...t/DSCF1451.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...t/DSCF1453.jpg

18psi 07-25-2009 04:27 AM

Not bad. Could have made more power and more torque with a turbo:D

Patiofurnituregt 07-25-2009 04:46 AM

Yeah I could have made more PEAK power, but Im pretty sure if you were to take the integral of my ~5psi tune vs. lets say a 5psi greddy kit. I have a higher avg. torque.
I also might be making a tiny bit more power than that since my rev limiter was reset to 7500 and the Dyno stops at ~7k. I'll net throw on the 8psi pulley and see what that makes and track it like that for a bit, but now with the AEM I kinda want to go turbo and built motor and 99' head and shoot for 300whp for some stupid speed!!! :)

hustler 07-25-2009 09:55 AM

yeah, look at that torque line...its only 100wtq lower than everyone else on this forum.

M-Tuned 07-25-2009 09:58 AM

Not bad for 5psi.. Thats the 100% meth for you!

disturbedfan121 07-25-2009 10:37 AM

let me ad meth to my kit. i'll make at least 50whp and 40wtq than you.....wait i already do. on a 1.6

so whats gonna happen when i run meth and turn the boost up some more? lol

but not for SC tho

Saml01 07-25-2009 10:59 AM

Your graph starts at 3000rpm. which doent help your cause. everyone here makes at least as much torque as you and definitely makes more peak hp.

sixshooter 07-25-2009 11:13 AM

Why does your pressure creep up from four to six psi above 5600 rpm? Backpressure in the exhaust? I know the stock intake manifold flow is weak but it is definitely good for a lot more than 190hp.

In that part of the graph your pressure is rising and your torque is falling which seems to indicate a breathing problem. The cat maybe?

Joe Perez 07-25-2009 11:25 AM

Interesting how even though pressure starts rising from about 5k, torque still falls off...

paNX2K&SE-R 07-25-2009 12:18 PM

That looks pretty good for an M45 at 5psi. The Dyno Dynamics numbers are usually about 10% lower than a Dynojet.

Patiofurnituregt 07-25-2009 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 434575)
let me ad meth to my kit. i'll make at least 50whp and 40wtq than you.....wait i already do. on a 1.6

so whats gonna happen when i run meth and turn the boost up some more? lol

but not for SC tho

My tuner said that the meth at such low boost really just helped with the intercooling effect, he added 2* of timing with meth. It only yielded 5whp and 10tq more with meth so.....


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 434581)
Why does your pressure creep up from four to six psi above 5600 rpm? Backpressure in the exhaust? I know the stock intake manifold flow is weak but it is definitely good for a lot more than 190hp.

In that part of the graph your pressure is rising and your torque is falling which seems to indicate a breathing problem. The cat maybe?

I would imagine it just has to do with the inefficiency of the head after that rpm and not being able to flow that kind of air. Thus, I get pressure build up. I don't see how it would be exhaust related like a turbo. I have a JR header and cat, magnaflow cat back as well. My friends SC would make 12psi on his mp62 and when he switched to a 99' motor with no other mods boost went down to 8PSI! and made about the same power. Boost can just be thought of as a measure of the inefficiency of the head.

Also this SC came on the car when I bought it, not like I think SC's are the jesus of FI. But I'm confident with these numbers that they could rival a lot of turbo cars at the same 5PSI OF BOOST!!!

viperormiata 07-25-2009 03:13 PM

Wow. Those are really, really great numbers for only 5 psi.

I was only making 168whp at 5 psi on my m45 but with a ported 1.6 head.

ARTech 07-25-2009 03:48 PM

impressive!


Originally Posted by Patiofurnituregt (Post 434619)
But I'm confident with these numbers that they could rival a lot of turbo cars at the same 5PSI OF BOOST!!!

that's the problem...no one in their right mind would keep the boost at 5psi when it takes $10 and twist of a knob to turn it up. the versatility of a turbo ;)

elesjuan 07-25-2009 04:12 PM

Dang guys, don't have to shit in his Cheerios!!

Thats pretty impressive for an M45, Honestly. Best we could get out of one on its last leg w/bandaids was 147whp..

http://jugrnot.com/dyno.jpg

Haven't been back since the recent upgrades cause the blower died.

That dyno was with 8psi 62mm (I think) blower pulley, P-P-P-P-Powercard!!! (Notice that perfect fuel curve... :rolleyes:) Jackson racing BTM, big header, FM high flow cat, 2" catback borla system.

He ordered MSPNP and sold the timing and powercard garbage to nearly recover the entire cost of the PNP, Lc1, water/meth kit, and larger exhaust. Blower died in the first 15 minutes of a MAM track day. :bowrofl:

Savington 07-25-2009 05:02 PM

I really wish everyone would shut the fuck up about "HAHA LOW TORQUE". 190whp out of an M45 is fucking unheard of. Very nice setup.

Patiofurnituregt 07-25-2009 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 434648)
I really wish everyone would shut the fuck up about "HAHA LOW TORQUE". 190whp out of an M45 is fucking unheard of. Very nice setup.


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 434623)
Wow. Those are really, really great numbers for only 5 psi.

I was only making 168whp at 5 psi on my m45 but with a ported 1.6 head.

Thanks, to those that weren't hating! lol

I was really happy with the numbers given the setup, I haven't really seen any really around that power other than an NB with bigger injectors, fuel pump, link ECU, and 8# pulley that made 192whp...But this will be plenty of power for auto-x, I just need to get a clutch ASAP cause its slipping now has anyone had good look with the XTD's off ebay? I've heard there actuaully pretty good and dirt cheap.

BracedEunos 08-14-2009 04:15 PM

Very impressive 45! If you keep the blower then your recipe for success will be to overspin and throw meth before and after the eaton.

hustler 08-14-2009 04:22 PM

Oh shit, the whole time I thought this was the bigger blower. Good job dude. Now get a proper tune on it with MS. I'm really anxious to see what the tune looks like with proper engine management...considering I'm about to tune adaptronic on an 01 w/ mp62.

lsc224 08-14-2009 04:26 PM

With all my parts sitting in my garage, I'll take that hp anyday.

Stein 08-14-2009 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 442608)
considering I'm about to tune adaptronic on an 01 w/ mp62.

wut? Sister's car?


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