Meth injected TB relocated M45 190whp 170tq - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-25-2009, 05:18 AM   #1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gresham/ Corvallis, OR
Posts: 58
Total Cats: 0
Default Meth injected TB relocated M45 190whp 170tq

Tuned on AEM EMS w/ MAP sensor, and AEM meth injection using 100% meth and medium nozzle. Custom intake and TB relocation with BOV. Header back exhaust, stock 5psi pulley. Colder iridiums gapped at .030". Stock injectors and fuel pump.

Turbo's eat your heart out!!! just look at that torque curve/ line....lol



Patiofurnituregt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 05:27 AM   #2
Murderator
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 36,206
Total Cats: 2,587
Default

Not bad. Could have made more power and more torque with a turbo
18psi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 05:46 AM   #3
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gresham/ Corvallis, OR
Posts: 58
Total Cats: 0
Default

Yeah I could have made more PEAK power, but Im pretty sure if you were to take the integral of my ~5psi tune vs. lets say a 5psi greddy kit. I have a higher avg. torque.
I also might be making a tiny bit more power than that since my rev limiter was reset to 7500 and the Dyno stops at ~7k. I'll net throw on the 8psi pulley and see what that makes and track it like that for a bit, but now with the AEM I kinda want to go turbo and built motor and 99' head and shoot for 300whp for some stupid speed!!!
Patiofurnituregt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 10:55 AM   #4
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

yeah, look at that torque line...its only 100wtq lower than everyone else on this forum.
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 10:58 AM   #5
Guest
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vaughan, On, Canada
Posts: 1,092
Total Cats: 0
Default

Not bad for 5psi.. Thats the 100% meth for you!
M-Tuned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 11:37 AM   #6
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Freehold, NJ
Posts: 1,577
Total Cats: -2
Default

let me ad meth to my kit. i'll make at least 50whp and 40wtq than you.....wait i already do. on a 1.6

so whats gonna happen when i run meth and turn the boost up some more? lol

but not for SC tho
disturbedfan121 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 11:59 AM   #7
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Saml01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,730
Total Cats: 2
Default

Your graph starts at 3000rpm. which doent help your cause. everyone here makes at least as much torque as you and definitely makes more peak hp.
Saml01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 12:13 PM   #8
Moderator
iTrader: (11)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 15,695
Total Cats: 1,563
Default

Why does your pressure creep up from four to six psi above 5600 rpm? Backpressure in the exhaust? I know the stock intake manifold flow is weak but it is definitely good for a lot more than 190hp.

In that part of the graph your pressure is rising and your torque is falling which seems to indicate a breathing problem. The cat maybe?
sixshooter is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 12:25 PM   #9
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Delicious and Moist.
Posts: 26,328
Total Cats: 1,926
Default

Interesting how even though pressure starts rising from about 5k, torque still falls off...
Joe Perez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 01:18 PM   #10
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
paNX2K&SE-R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mocksville, NC
Posts: 676
Total Cats: 11
Default

That looks pretty good for an M45 at 5psi. The Dyno Dynamics numbers are usually about 10% lower than a Dynojet.
paNX2K&SE-R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 03:56 PM   #11
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gresham/ Corvallis, OR
Posts: 58
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 View Post
let me ad meth to my kit. i'll make at least 50whp and 40wtq than you.....wait i already do. on a 1.6

so whats gonna happen when i run meth and turn the boost up some more? lol

but not for SC tho
My tuner said that the meth at such low boost really just helped with the intercooling effect, he added 2* of timing with meth. It only yielded 5whp and 10tq more with meth so.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixshooter View Post
Why does your pressure creep up from four to six psi above 5600 rpm? Backpressure in the exhaust? I know the stock intake manifold flow is weak but it is definitely good for a lot more than 190hp.

In that part of the graph your pressure is rising and your torque is falling which seems to indicate a breathing problem. The cat maybe?
I would imagine it just has to do with the inefficiency of the head after that rpm and not being able to flow that kind of air. Thus, I get pressure build up. I don't see how it would be exhaust related like a turbo. I have a JR header and cat, magnaflow cat back as well. My friends SC would make 12psi on his mp62 and when he switched to a 99' motor with no other mods boost went down to 8PSI! and made about the same power. Boost can just be thought of as a measure of the inefficiency of the head.

Also this SC came on the car when I bought it, not like I think SC's are the jesus of FI. But I'm confident with these numbers that they could rival a lot of turbo cars at the same 5PSI OF BOOST!!!

Last edited by Patiofurnituregt; 07-25-2009 at 04:28 PM.
Patiofurnituregt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 04:13 PM   #12
NB/VVT Connoisseur
iTrader: (24)
 
viperormiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Key West
Posts: 6,074
Total Cats: 253
Default

Wow. Those are really, really great numbers for only 5 psi.

I was only making 168whp at 5 psi on my m45 but with a ported 1.6 head.
viperormiata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 04:48 PM   #13
Senior Member
iTrader: (34)
 
ARTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dallas
Posts: 530
Total Cats: 9
Default

impressive!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patiofurnituregt View Post
But I'm confident with these numbers that they could rival a lot of turbo cars at the same 5PSI OF BOOST!!!
that's the problem...no one in their right mind would keep the boost at 5psi when it takes $10 and twist of a **** to turn it up. the versatility of a turbo
ARTech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 05:12 PM   #14
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Posts: 5,382
Total Cats: 43
Default

Dang guys, don't have to **** in his Cheerios!!

Thats pretty impressive for an M45, Honestly. Best we could get out of one on its last leg w/bandaids was 147whp..



Haven't been back since the recent upgrades cause the blower died.

That dyno was with 8psi 62mm (I think) blower pulley, P-P-P-P-Powercard!!! (Notice that perfect fuel curve... ) Jackson racing BTM, big header, FM high flow cat, 2" catback borla system.

He ordered MSPNP and sold the timing and powercard garbage to nearly recover the entire cost of the PNP, Lc1, water/meth kit, and larger exhaust. Blower died in the first 15 minutes of a MAM track day.

Last edited by elesjuan; 07-25-2009 at 05:26 PM.
elesjuan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 06:02 PM   #15
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 14,372
Total Cats: 1,336
Default

I really wish everyone would shut the **** up about "HAHA LOW TORQUE". 190whp out of an M45 is ******* unheard of. Very nice setup.
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 06:20 PM   #16
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gresham/ Corvallis, OR
Posts: 58
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savington View Post
I really wish everyone would shut the **** up about "HAHA LOW TORQUE". 190whp out of an M45 is ******* unheard of. Very nice setup.
Quote:
Originally Posted by viperormiata View Post
Wow. Those are really, really great numbers for only 5 psi.

I was only making 168whp at 5 psi on my m45 but with a ported 1.6 head.
Thanks, to those that weren't hating! lol

I was really happy with the numbers given the setup, I haven't really seen any really around that power other than an NB with bigger injectors, fuel pump, link ECU, and 8# pulley that made 192whp...But this will be plenty of power for auto-x, I just need to get a clutch ASAP cause its slipping now has anyone had good look with the XTD's off ebay? I've heard there actuaully pretty good and dirt cheap.
Patiofurnituregt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 05:15 PM   #17
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Renton, WA
Posts: 50
Total Cats: 0
Default

Very impressive 45! If you keep the blower then your recipe for success will be to overspin and throw meth before and after the eaton.
BracedEunos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 05:22 PM   #18
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

Oh ****, the whole time I thought this was the bigger blower. Good job dude. Now get a proper tune on it with MS. I'm really anxious to see what the tune looks like with proper engine management...considering I'm about to tune adaptronic on an 01 w/ mp62.
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 05:26 PM   #19
Junior Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 498
Total Cats: 6
Default

With all my parts sitting in my garage, I'll take that hp anyday.
lsc224 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 05:29 PM   #20
Elite Member
iTrader: (46)
 
Stein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 4,812
Total Cats: 138
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hustler View Post
considering I'm about to tune adaptronic on an 01 w/ mp62.
wut? Sister's car?
Stein is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need help - Stock Balancer and Fastforward overlay pulleys Frank_and_Beans Supercharger Discussion 13 09-12-2016 09:17 PM
An Old Driver but a newbie in Miata Patriarca Meet and Greet 17 10-13-2015 02:34 PM
Time to start learning and play with tuning The Gleas MEGAsquirt 3 10-01-2015 10:30 AM
VE values too low? compuw22c MEGAsquirt 4 09-12-2015 08:42 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:53 PM.