Soviet era car, space age turbo, rocket fuel
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Yesterday I went to the dyno and made 458whp and 391ft/lbs on the last run.
- E85 (rocket fuel) - 1.8 block, 84mm wiseco pistons, eagle rods (1884cc displacement) - stock 99 head from a pick and pull junkyard - wittyworks hotside parts (manifold, downpipe, exhaust) - Borg Warner EFR6758 turbo - Flat-top EUDM intake manifold, stock 99 throttle body - M-tuned fuel rail in single-feed configuration, stock fuel hard lines, -6AN lines after that - Fuelab mini FPR, ID1000 injectors, 60psi base fuel pressure - Walbro 416 E85 pump (part #F90000267) - Precision 600 intercooler - Silverado truck coils (aka LS2 coils), 0.035" gap, NGK 4091 resistorless plugs, MSD 32829 wires - 6 speed transmission from a 2005 Mazdaspeed - ACT 6 puck xtreme clutch - Timing map made by Faeflora. Timing map of RAPE http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo/mt.net/458whp.png? The dyno operator started all the pulls at 3-3.5k rpm which is too late and doesn't reflect my EFR's spool accurately. For example, during the last run it spooled to 29psi at 4300rpm - vs 3700 if the pull was started at 2k my old 400whp dyno vs 458, showing late spool http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...vs-400whp.png? (nothing changed in the hotside since that dyno) photoshopped 458whp dyno to show how spool SHOULD be like http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...whp-spool.png? All 4 runs overlayed http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...t/AllRuns.png? Run1: Wastegate, 15psi Run2: Allofit, -4* timing, dyno fan off Run3: Allofit, -2* timing, dyno fan on Run4: Allofit, unadjusted timing map, dyno fan on Logs: http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...58whp/Run1.msl http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...58whp/Run2.msl http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...58whp/Run3.msl http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...58whp/Run4.msl Videos: |
Some notes
- Fuel pressure was higher than it was supposed to, for some reason it was hovering around 63psi effective pressure - Wastegate boost was only 15-16psi so I could have probably reached 30psi or higher if I tightened the wastegate arm. All the "allofit" pulls were hitting 0% wastegate duty. - 90% injector duty cycle, meaning there was still fuel left! - Turbo speed sensor was disconnected, sadly :( |
Turbo speed data would be dope.
Wanna post the Fae timing map of rape? |
Um, that's all on the CAS sensor? woah....
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post the msq lol
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Originally Posted by AbeFM
(Post 1053604)
Um, that's all on the CAS sensor? woah....
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
(Post 1053592)
Turbo speed data would be dope.
Wanna post the Fae timing map of rape? That made 458 -2* made 454 -4* made 436. the fan wasn't on but it was definitely gaining up until -2* |
^ d-d-d-d-d-daaaaaaamn
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That is very impressive. All the work has paid off.
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I can get a 3900-4000rpm full spool (29psi) out of a 3076 on a 1.9L if I start at ~2700rpm.
I also got 428hp at 29psi at -5* on an already conservative ignition map (was out of water on the WI system and didn't notice on the dyno). So somehow I was expecting more out of this setup, given the 3076 is an old turbo by todays standards. |
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1053960)
I can get a 3900-4000rpm full spool (29psi) out of a 3076 on a 1.9L if I start at ~2700rpm.
I also got 428hp at 29psi at -5* on an already conservative ignition map (was out of water on the WI system and didn't notice on the dyno). So somehow I was expecting more out of this setup, given the 3076 is an old turbo by todays standards. |
VVT head with no work apart from SS valves, "93" octane fuel ("100 RON"), max RPM is 7300, JE 84mm/8.6:1, 99 intake w/VICS, GM coils, RX-7 FD gearbox, MS2. Target AFRs are 11.3-11.5, timing is 8-15* retarded compared to your map posted above.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1053960)
I can get a 3900-4000rpm full spool (29psi) out of a 3076 on a 1.9L if I start at ~2700rpm.
I also got 428hp at 29psi at -5* on an already conservative ignition map (was out of water on the WI system and didn't notice on the dyno). So somehow I was expecting more out of this setup, given the 3076 is an old turbo by todays standards. |
Crank hp. I have come to the conclusion that US dynos read about the same whp as what most european dynos read as crank hp.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
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Crank hp. I have come to the conclusion that US dynos read about the same whp as what most european dynos read as crank hp.
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Its all a guestimate so why not? I'd say that sounds pretty reasonable with a vvt head actually.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1054151)
Crank hp. I have come to the conclusion that US dynos read about the same whp as what most european dynos read as crank hp.
My dyno result is SAE corrected WHP on a dyno that's approved for club racing, so its accurate. Uncorrected, its 485whp/404ft/lbs. Crank hp is over 500, closer to 550. |
better power/weight ratio then a 1.3 million dollar pagani huayra? Badass!!!
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I may be a bit late to this ( been focusing on getting my car running and not the forums )
Our builds are about identi-chokes- Not really, I don't have awesomeness :( But, I noticed, why does the gear ratio keep changing in all 4 runs? I thought it's suppose to stay the same. Also smoothing: 5, seems like a lot. I'm no expert on this stuff though, just trying to understand it. Sorry if it seems I'm critiquing. |
Originally Posted by Impuls
(Post 1071107)
I may be a bit late to this ( been focusing on getting my car running and not the forums )
Our builds are about identi-chokes- Not really, I don't have awesomeness :( But, I noticed, why does the gear ratio keep changing in all 4 runs? I thought it's suppose to stay the same. Also smoothing: 5, seems like a lot. I'm no expert on this stuff though, just trying to understand it. Sorry if it seems I'm critiquing. The rear shocks compress A LOT under full power - see vidya Regarding smoothing - I always use 5. For some dynos its unneeded, for other it is. Another factor is ramp settings they use on the rollers - the dyno I went to before did long pulls (~10 seconds) vs the last time it was a 5 second run. It can be clearly illustrated if you use the 'time' scale in WinPEP - http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...-vs-time.png?? Finally, in the same image above I turned off any correction factors. BAM all of a sudden I'm making 474whp :jerkit: It was a very nice day and ambient conditions were better than SAE specs. |
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