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buffon01 05-03-2010 12:33 PM

40mpg?? What are you AFRs at cruise??

miataspeed2005 05-03-2010 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 567013)
Honestly, his numbers are what I'd expect with that turbo on a 1.6L on a roller dyno... I see nothing wrong. also I thought you were running like 15psi and had a major boost spike during spool...

add a mere 10% to his numbers and you got 247/216 for a rough dynojet comparison.

No it was at 12psi trailing to 10psi cause the stock greddy wastegate wasn't working. Then I upgraded it to a t28 wategate and set the MBC to 14psi and got a steady 14psi all the way to redline but I haven't dyno that yet. The boost spike your talking about is my current issue with the new IC I installed.

shlammed 05-03-2010 12:59 PM

Buffon, since there are so many correction maps, the afr fluctuates quite a bit depending on so much.

if im on a level, no throttle inputs, in 5th gear on 3.6 rear end just cruising... it will vary between 15-16.5:1

The main thing is that i cruise at 70mph (110km) at ~3k now vs the 4k with stock 4.3 as well has having VTPS and a tune very specific to my car...

This could also attest to the quality of the injector dynamics injectors that i picked up from 949 racing.

buffon01 05-03-2010 01:08 PM

Well with my parkinson AFRs I cruise leaner that you (Yes I know I have to tune) and I dont get more that 200 mpt as you can tell I dont cruise much :facepalm:

shlammed 05-03-2010 01:10 PM

This is visually observed over 1 day. I will datalog some driving in the near future, as i need to get my boost control running anyways, and then i can see what the ems is recording which is more accurate than me reading my innovate guage.

Braineack 05-03-2010 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 566919)
Lol I know what legit is, I was just busting your balls. And yeah the numbers are low, look at my sig, I made more power and tq on a td04-19t at 12psi.


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 567058)
No it was at 12psi trailing to 10psi cause the stock greddy wastegate wasn't working. Then I upgraded it to a t28 wategate and set the MBC to 14psi and got a steady 14psi all the way to redline but I haven't dyno that yet. The boost spike your talking about is my current issue with the new IC I installed.

do you have a boost log to prove it? You're suggesting you made 232 at 6.5K with 10psi on a 1.6L with the greddy manifold and starion IC....that would make your setup one of the most powerful 1.6L setups out there.

Jeff_Ciesielski 05-03-2010 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 567083)
do you have a boost log to prove it? You're suggesting you made 232 at 6.5K with 10psi on a 1.6L with the greddy manifold and starion IC....that would make your setup one of the most powerful 1.6L setups out there.

Either that or he stole Ray_sir_6's tuning secrets.

Braineack 05-03-2010 01:18 PM

His dyno is nearly identical to BRgracers dyno on the same machine back in 2006...and a VERY similar setup, but he ran around 15psi, peaking at 17psi during spoolup.

levnubhin 05-03-2010 01:48 PM

I think his numbers are good. It took 16 psi from my 2871 to make 242/224 on a Mustang dyno.
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Jeff_Ciesielski 05-03-2010 02:03 PM

I agree that the OPs numbers are good for a 1.6.

shlammed 05-03-2010 02:51 PM

That makes me feel better about it.

I want to fuck around with boost control still to get it up there and steady.
If i can get that working, I will make the 2 hour trip to toronto for the M-tuned dyno day and run it on their mustang for number comparisons.

miataspeed2005 05-03-2010 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 567083)
do you have a boost log to prove it? You're suggesting you made 232 at 6.5K with 10psi on a 1.6L with the greddy manifold and starion IC....that would make your setup one of the most powerful 1.6L setups out there.

We tryed to do a log but my laptop wasn't hooking up... Do you not remember? And I didn't have 232 at 6.5k I think it was like 5k and then it went down... You should still have the dyno sheet, and it might not make a huge difference but I have a 19t wheel.

Braineack 05-03-2010 03:15 PM

you act like i wasn't lookin' at your dyno ;)

Brgracer logged this run at a 17psi spike dropping to 15psi.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...tom_greddy.jpg

shlammed 06-01-2010 06:36 PM

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got bored... overlayed my graphs that i have.





low lines are 10psi

high are 12psi.





i never drove the car at 12psi. :(



When i get the new turbo i will get the same charts with the same turbo, only difference will be the TiAL exhaust housing... i may tune up to 14psi too...

This time i will have cometic head gasket and ARP head studs since my head gasket is leaking like a seive.


EDIT:
Does anyone have any insight into why power was falling off at 12psi besides the possible boost drop from not running a real boost controller?(we used a crimped metal T since EBC wasnt working and i didnt have a manual)

jbrown7815 06-01-2010 07:09 PM

In for results

hustler 06-01-2010 08:48 PM

The gt2860rs needs 15psi or so to "work." I don't know why but on my old begi stuff and my absurdflow stuff my car made shit output at 11-13psi...then at 15psi its like another world. I'm sure that my lowered compression has something to do with it too.

from the old begi stuff...
12psi:
http://i48.tinypic.com/25jza88.jpg
15psi:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2d134w0.jpg

18psi 06-01-2010 08:58 PM

same with my hks. it was nice at 8, decent at 10-12, but at 14 it was like "WHOAH, WTF IS THIS?"

hustler 06-01-2010 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 581689)
same with my hks. it was nice at 8, decent at 10-12, but at 14 it was like "WHOAH, WTF IS THIS?"

prime efficiency, lulz. I don't know how much power the AF parts make at 16psi but this car was crazy at 16.

shlammed 06-01-2010 09:46 PM

I was creeping the dyno section today and i noticed this in your dyno thread.
being on a completely stock engine im weary of high boost... but im going to add a knock sensor to the EMS and watch that.

My tuner told me this at the tune day. he said another psi or two will liven this setup up for real.

I was getting scared that day because the higher we boosted it, the more oil i was leaking...

I hope to get some solid numbers down and pump 14psi into the engine with it being happy.

Im also going to try to tune a bit more of my 2000-3000rpm cells to get better in town drivability... the 1.6 fidanza seems to make my car not like holding between on/off throttle.

shlammed 06-01-2010 09:47 PM

btw, im very interested in comparing my numbers to yours hustler once i get up and running with boost control off of my EMS.

You are running the 0.86 TiAL housing, correct?


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