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Old 08-13-2010, 07:30 PM   #1
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Default LC-1 questions.

I'm new to this stuff so don't trash me too hard guys!

I'm getting ready to install an LC-1 prior to an MS stand alone. My turbo down pipe has an air sensor installed about 6" back from the turbo. Two questions...

Can I use this sight for the LC-1 or is it too close to the turbo? Should I hold off and install it after the stand alone is installed being the stock cumputer is utilizing the present air sensor?

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too close. have a bung welded much further downstream.
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I haven't ordered the LC-1 yet so I haven't seen the install instructions but that's what I figured. Thanks! How far from the turbo should I place it? I'll be able to pull the air sensor & cap it and go ahead and run the LC-1 with the stock ECU until I install the MS stand alone?
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Wait you have a turbo installed and are still running the stock ecu?

Yes the LC-1 can output a narrowband signal to the stock ecu, I believe by default it is the brown wire.
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Yep. Still running the stock ECU but not for long! Thanks for the input. LC-1 then the ECU. One change at a time!
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Yep. Still running the stock ECU but not for long! Thanks for the input. LC-1 then the ECU. One change at a time!
Please tell me you have your wastegate is open and you are not going WOT. Or that you are using some form of bandaids for fuel and ignition.
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I am running a Bipes timing controller, Walbro fuel pump with an under the hood fuel pressure gauge and 1.8 injectors. I know!
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id say dont hit boost or just park the car.
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I say if I had done that I'd have missed out on over three years of autcrossing with this exact set up of which I finished hundredth's of second off top time of day today... The set up works... Could it be better? Hell yes.
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I haven't ordered the LC-1 yet so I haven't seen the install instructions but that's what I figured.
If you still haven't ordered it, Innovate has all their documentation available on their website, just like most manufacturers.

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wtf is this bs with people not running there cars unless they spend 100's on electronic BS come on guys we where doing that **** for years before link and MS came around.
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id say dont hit boost or just park the car.
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wtf is this bs with people not running there cars unless they spend 100's on electronic BS come on guys we where doing that **** for years before link and MS came around.
I was simply asking because he originally said he was running the stock ECU. With the influx of idiots recently who have wanted to run just that and no bipes/fmu I had to ask. Had he listed it in his signature what his setup was and that it ran a bipes/fmu combo I would not have asked.
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Didn't mean to **** anyone off. I just meant to convey the setup I've been running has been effective though I am looking to improve on it and make the engine last longer!

Oh... Missed another top time of day by less than 1/10th a second this weekend. I gave it 110% that's for sure so I am happy with it.
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you want to put the LC1 half a foot before the stock cat location.

Also make sure you hook it up to a source that will not be disrupted during cranking. I connected mine to the radio ACC which shuts off during cranking. BAD MISTAKE.

as far as instructions go, connect your wires to the gauge and the botton/light combo as the directions say, make sure you have a good 12 volt source, i ran a whole new line from the battery to the LC1, i installed the little thing in the tiny little space right in front of the shifter. I took off the 4 screws holding the rubber boot around the shifter, slid the sensor through there and simply put the boot right on top of it, worked perfect.
. As far as the calibration goes, you do not connect the wideband sensor to the LC1 controller yet, turn the LC1 controller on, the light will blink 2 quick blinks 1 space in between. so blink blink ............blink blink............blink blink.... for 20 seconds, then shut the power off, connect the sensor to the controller and turn the power back on, light will blink slower, after few seconds it will speed up, eventually it will be lit continuously. when that happens press and hold the red button for 30some seconds light will be off when you hold the button, after thats done let go of the button, light will blink once and then be on continuously, shut power off again and install the sensor inside your exhaust, sensor will be hot at this point so give it few mins to cool off before putting ur hands on it. Turn the sensor 5 times the opposite way of the way you would screw it in to add few twists in the wiring so once you tighten it, the wires should straighten out. Once its installed and tight turn on your car and give it a go.
. I dont know how MS uses the sensor however my adaptronic has a 9 pin serial input. The lc1 should come with the serial cable inside the box, it should also have a small terminator plug. The Serial cable goes to the connector that says out, the terminator plug goes to the plug that says in. You will see what i mean when u get ur unit.

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you want to put the LC1 half a foot before the stock cat location.

read the calibration instructions before you install your unit. Also make sure you hook it up to a source that will not be disrupted during cranking. I connected mine to the radio ACC which shuts off during cranking. BAD MISTAKE.
No. If I recall correctly, its voltage drops DURING cranking that upset the LC1. Different than cutting all power to it. I've had mine hooked up to the radio and havn't had any problems other than having a sensor go bad, which I can't see being related.
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I just replaced my sensor 3 hours ago...
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Triple88a.

Thanks for the install info. Mine came without install instructions. I was thinking of running the harness through the shifter opening too being I will be able to get enough length out of it that way. I haven't had any time to work on the damn car lately. I need to get the Lc1 installed so I can get the stand alone ordered!
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the LC1 takes roughly 10-20 minutes to install if you fix your wires before you go in the car like i did, unscrew the 5 screws holding the center console, remove the shift ****, remove the center console, install gauge, put the LC1 controller in the gap in front of the shifter, remove the 4 screws hodling the rubber boot to the tub, slide the sensor in there, there should be 2 zip ties on the wiring, put the zipties on the transmission side of the rubber boot and tighten the screws, go under the car find the sensor and remove the plastic cover on it, Turn on the LC1 for 20 seconds, after that turn it off, plug in the senor to the lc1, calibrate it, go under your car again and hook up the sensor in the exhaust, put back the center console and bam, done. To gain access, jack up the passenger front side of the vehicle, not the drivers side unless you welded the bung too far to the drivers side.
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Sounds pretty straight forward. Thanks!
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