Is ms w/wonky wideband dangerous?
The crap wideband lc1 I have keeps loosing its calibration and I am needing to recalibrate it often. I thought maybe I fixed it but still is giving me issues. I read that auto tune requires the wide band. Now I just started wondering, if at some point when i'm driving the car, if the wideband goes wonky, can it hurt my motor because ms tries to compensate?
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How do you know the LC1 is losing its calibration?
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If you're allowing an inaccurate wideband to autotune your car you could definitely blow it up.
If you've already got a solid tune and you're not actively autotuning the car, then your probably ok. Depending on how severe and frequent the loss of calibration you probably want to decrease the EGO correction limits or turn EGO off completely so it won't throw the tune off when you're in closed loop. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1218018)
How do you know the LC1 is losing its calibration?
Originally Posted by pdexta
(Post 1218021)
If you're allowing an inaccurate wideband to autotune your car you could definitely blow it up.
If you've already got a solid tune and you're not actively autotuning the car, then your probably ok. Depending on how severe and frequent the loss of calibration you probably want to decrease the EGO correction limits or turn EGO off completely so it won't throw the tune off when you're in closed loop. |
Have you fixed your wideband install or is it still chucked in there with a dozen butt connectors?
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its either a bad install or the sensor is dead.
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Could be both, but i'm 99% sure that the install is bad. It looks bad. He should feel bad.
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I cleaned it up a little bit and relocated the unit to under the radio area but yes, I still have the butt lines. But I'm getting good voltage.. My electrician friend who also has a wideband said it should be fine and that the 12v is solid and that adding a line from the battery is a unneeded complexity. :dunno:
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Originally Posted by Hinano
(Post 1218055)
I cleaned it up a little bit and relocated the unit to under the radio area but yes, I still have the butt lines. But I'm getting good voltage.. My electrician friend who also has a wideband said it should be fine and that the 12v is solid and that adding a line from the battery is a unneeded complexity. :dunno:
Your's for reference https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1427226971 |
Originally Posted by bahurd
(Post 1218063)
I'm guessing your electrician friend wires houses? Your wiring sucks big time... Why not do a proper wiring job then ask.
Your's for reference https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1427226971 |
Just to clarify... you're using "vamp clamps" to power your wideband from the cigarette lighter?
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Originally Posted by Hinano
(Post 1218068)
It's ugly yes, but is my racer friend wrong when he says the butt connectors are sufficient? Is he also wrong about using the snap in wire taps? I used the snap wire tap things to power from the cigarette lighter.
And to your question #2 & 3 no they aren't. You seem to want to do things 'temporary' then ask why shit doesn't work after. Then argue with everyone about it after the fact. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1218072)
Just to clarify... you're using "vamp clamps" to power your wideband from the cigarette lighter?
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Your wideband will never work if you leave it wired like that. The LC-1 is highly sensitive to poor grounding, and you have it teed off the radio or something equally kludged. Did you read the directions that came with it?
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A wideband controller is influenced significantly by minor differences in electricity. Butt connectors and vampire connectors can offer a greater resistance than soldering the connection. Choosing a circuit for powering the unit that will not fluctuate by having a load variation is important.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1218120)
Your wideband will never work if you leave it wired like that. The LC-1 is highly sensitive to poor grounding, and you have it teed off the radio or something equally kludged. Did you read the directions that came with it?
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1218121)
A wideband controller is influenced significantly by minor differences in electricity. Butt connectors and vampire connectors can offer a greater resistance than soldering the connection. Choosing a circuit for powering the unit that will not fluctuate by having a load variation is important.
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You are wrong, as in without a doubt wrong. If you were to complete the simple task of downloading the user manual for your wideband you would see how wrong you are.
And you are dumb as hell for what you are doing to the poor car. |
That shit it terrible. Fix the ghetto spaghetti. Put the wideband on the same power supply at the ECU so you have no ground offset.
If it still acts flaky once you've fixed the half-assery then we'll go from there. |
Originally Posted by deezums
(Post 1218128)
You are wrong, as in without a doubt wrong. If you were to complete the simple task of downloading the user manual for your wideband you would see how wrong you are.
And you are dumb as hell for what you are doing to the poor car.
Originally Posted by Ryephile
(Post 1218130)
That shit it terrible. Fix the ghetto spaghetti. Put the wideband on the same power supply at the ECU so you have no ground offset.
If it still acts flaky once you've fixed the half-assery then we'll go from there. |
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