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Reverant 08-28-2013 11:59 AM

New Innovate LC-2 wideband
 
LC-2 Wideband O2 Digital Air/fuel Ratio Controller

Doesn't require free air calibration anymore.

What is this world coming to? May grab one to test.

Discuss. :party:

Tw34k 08-28-2013 12:54 PM

From what I am seeing they are making the right improvements. Mounting holes, built in LED indicator, no more stupid terminator plug, seems like a winner in my book. Innovate is always doing good things in the wideband world.

karter74 08-28-2013 12:58 PM

The obvious question is how long until this can digitally communicate with your MS products? :)

Preluding 08-28-2013 01:08 PM

It can already no???

Outputs:
Analog
2 x 0-5VDC, 10 bit resolution, programmable

thenuge26 08-28-2013 01:12 PM

Goddammit I just bought an AEM UEGO since I didn't want to have to calibrate an LC-1.

Reverant 08-28-2013 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by karter74 (Post 1048103)
The obvious question is how long until this can digitally communicate with your MS products? :)

It already does...hint hint, more to come in a few days.

Oscar 08-28-2013 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1048108)
It already does...hint hint, more to come in a few days.

:idea:

Would mine be the first to do so? (If it were hypothetically possible of course :party:)

Tw34k 08-28-2013 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1048106)
Goddammit I just bought an AEM UEGO since I didn't want to have to calibrate an LC-1.

Why not get the MTX instead? http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/MTXL.php

I personally hate the UEGO

thenuge26 08-28-2013 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Tw34k (Post 1048137)
Why not get the MTX instead? MTX-L Wideband O2 Digital Air/fuel Ratio Gauge

I personally hate the UEGO


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1048106)
Goddammit I just bought an AEM UEGO since I didn't want to have to calibrate an LC-1.

Uhh, the MTX is just an LC-1 inside of a gauge. I don't want to have to calibrate it every 3 months.

concealer404 08-28-2013 02:59 PM

MTX-L shares very little with the LC-1.

thenuge26 08-28-2013 03:28 PM

They share the only thing I care about: they need to be calibrated every 3 months.

shuiend 08-28-2013 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1048152)
They share the only thing I care about: they need to be calibrated every 3 months.

I am not sure if it is a "need" or more of something you can do. I think I calibrated my original LC-1 maybe 3 times in the 3 years that I had it on my car. One of those times was right before I went in for a dyno tuning, the other 2 were times when I had everything out of the car and was making changes. Other then that I had zero issues with needing to calibrate it.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 08-28-2013 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by MTX-L User Manual
2.4
Sensor Calibration
Once the unit has been wired and a suitable location has been found for both the gauge and the sensor it is time to do the sensor calibration. Innovate Motorsports’ ‘Direct Digital’ wideband measurement principal allows you to calibrate the sensor to compensate for sensor wear. This procedure takes just a few moments and it will insure the most accurate readings throughout the oxygen sensor’s life. This procedure is required anytime a NEW oxygen sensor is installed. The calibration procedure requires that the oxygen sensor be in free air, not in the exhaust. Important: Just because a vehicle is not running does not mean that the exhaust system is free of gases.

Ive only ever calibrated my LC-1 when the sensor happened to be pulled out, or when replacing the sensor. The MTX-L is no different.

soviet 08-28-2013 04:22 PM

Read this about free air calibration:

OMG, no free air calibration, WTFBBQ!!!!!!!!

Nagase 08-28-2013 04:25 PM

So, SLC? UGEO? LC-2? What's the most reliable/accurate setup here?

Inquiring minds want to know for an MS3.

FRT_Fun 08-28-2013 04:39 PM

I went MTX-L as I like the calibration so I know it's accurate. Also I want a real gauge and the MTX-L comes with one. If the LC-2 remains as accurate without calibration than that is win.

thenuge26 08-28-2013 04:40 PM

LC-1/MTX is most accurate, they are all decently reliable.

I figure if the AEM UEGO is accurate enough for TSE it's good enough for my purposes.

Tw34k 08-28-2013 05:12 PM

Why does everyone throw a bitch fit because a wideband can occasionally be calibrated for accuracy?
I calibrate my WB each time before I put it into someone exhaust and its like no inconvenience at all. I don't see how someone doing a permanent install could find this to be so tedious.

"You mean I have to wait like 10 seconds before I put the sensor in the bung!? Fuck that, I aint got all day."

"I have to hook a laptop up to my ecu to tune it? I'll just stick with a RRFPR and a check valve. Why can't I tune from my Iphone?" (basically the same mentality if you ask me)

FRT_Fun 08-28-2013 05:55 PM

How is it everyone if I just posted how I like being able to calibrate? I think there was like 1 person in this thread saying they don't like to calibrate.

thenuge26 08-28-2013 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Tw34k (Post 1048200)
Why does everyone throw a bitch fit because a wideband can occasionally be calibrated for accuracy?
I calibrate my WB each time before I put it into someone exhaust and its like no inconvenience at all. I don't see how someone doing a permanent install could find this to be so tedious.

"You mean I have to wait like 10 seconds before I put the sensor in the bung!? Fuck that, I aint got all day."

"I have to hook a laptop up to my ecu to tune it? I'll just stick with a RRFPR and a check valve. Why can't I tune from my Iphone?" (basically the same mentality if you ask me)


Why is my statement of why I purchased the AEM suddenly "throwing a bitch fit"?

I want to bolt shit up to my car, and then drive it. I fully know that's not what will happen, but let me dream. I don't want to have to remove the O2 sensor to calibrate it after the calibration goes off, even if it only takes 10 seconds. That's 10 seconds I'll save by using the AEM.


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