Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 957936)
Yes.
Not the tps, but the map and ait sensors. |
Originally Posted by PhilM
(Post 957965)
My stock 04 doesn't have a MAP sensor; and only (1) IAT sensor.
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you only need (1) ait sensor, and the MS comes with its own (1) map sensor
seriously, stop posting, start reading. This is like 2+2 |
Answers my questions. Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 957979)
you only need (1) ait sensor, and the MS comes with its own (1) map sensor
seriously, stop posting, start reading. This is like 2+2 |
Originally Posted by PhilM
(Post 958029)
Oh, Vlad, you really don't need a turbo, you need to get blown.
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that's what the turbo is for...
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Originally Posted by PhilM
(Post 958029)
Oh, Vlad, you really don't need a turbo, you need to get blown.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 957978)
No stock Miata had a MAP sensor. (Well, the MSMs might have- I'm not sure. But it's irrelevant.) The Megasquirt comes with a MAP sensor, and for most applications, this is used as the primary load input. No need for MAF.
Also my MK2.5 MX-5 has a 'boost' sensor, again I ASSume this is a map sensor for barometric correction - albeit in the engine bay this time. Although I am confused as to why a MAF equipped car woul need such a correction. I digress however, this is not really relevant to the OP. OP you should buy a Reverant MS, you can't beat it for the price. |
Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
(Post 958069)
Not a miata, but a few Eunos Roadsters had them, they were fitted directly to the ECU, I ASSume for barometric correction?!
Also my MK2.5 MX-5 has a 'boost' sensor, again I ASSume this is a map sensor for barometric correction - albeit in the engine bay this time. Although I am confused as to why a MAF equipped car woul need such a correction. I digress however, this is not really relevant to the OP. OP you should buy a Reverant MS, you can't beat it for the price. |
^ That.
All of the NBs had what you could call a MAP sensor, however it was used solely to validate the operation of the EGR system, and throw a CEL if it determines that the operation of the EGR valve (while in a diagnostic cycle) is not producing the expected fluctuations in pressure at the test point. This sensor is NOT used in the primary fueling calculation, it is simply there to help you fail an emissions test. The '90-'93 cars did have a barometric pressure sensor (inside the ECU case) which was used as a correction on the volumetric airflow sensor. Getting back on point, although it is capable of operating in MAF or alpha-N mode, most Megasquirts use MAP as the primary load input. Thus, all* Megasquirts include a MAP sensor on-board. * = There are certain "specialty" Megasquirt products such as the MS3Pro and the MicroSquirt which do not have the MAP sensor on-board, but rather require that you install an external MAP sensor. This is purely a packaging consideration- they function the same as the regular Megasquirts with regard to the load computation. |
The "EGR boost sensor" on my 2002 is clearly a baro sensor, since the MAP is hanging in free air and not connected to the intake or anything.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 958261)
The "EGR boost sensor" on my 2002 is clearly a baro sensor, since the MAP is hanging in free air and not connected to the intake or anything.
Makes sense now that you clarified it Joe that some of the the early 1.6's had a barometric MAP sensor, they're not MAF equipped, only AFM equipped! |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 958205)
^ That.
All of the NBs had what you could call a MAP sensor, however it was used solely to validate the operation of the EGR system, and throw a CEL if it determines that the operation of the EGR valve (while in a diagnostic cycle) is not producing the expected fluctuations in pressure at the test point. This sensor is NOT used in the primary fueling calculation, it is simply there to help you fail an emissions test. Getting back on point, although it is capable of operating in MAF or alpha-N mode, most Megasquirts use MAP as the primary load input. Thus, all* Megasquirts include a MAP sensor on-board. |
of course it would.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 958261)
The "EGR boost sensor" on my 2002 is clearly a baro sensor, since the MAP is hanging in free air and not connected to the intake or anything.
That sensor is supposed to have a hose on it which connects to a port on the intake manifold. This is how the ECU checks for the operation of the EGR system. It waits until the vehicle is warmed up and in decel, then it pulses the EGR valve itself open/closed and looks for a corresponding change in the reading of the sensor. This change was implemented (in north America, anyway) in 1999, when the EGR syste changed from a vacuum-operated valve to a six-wire stepper motor. Or were you merely pointing out that you have re-purposed the sensor in your car after having removed the stock ECU? |
IIRC there are two.
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IIRC, there is one, with a two-way solenoid between it and the manifold. The solenoid exposes the sensor to atmo as a reference, and then switches it to the manifold for the functional test.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 958341)
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That sensor is supposed to have a hose on it which connects to a port on the intake manifold. This is how the ECU checks for the operation of the EGR system. It waits until the vehicle is warmed up and in decel, then it pulses the EGR valve itself open/closed and looks for a corresponding change in the reading of the sensor. This change was implemented (in north America, anyway) in 1999, when the EGR syste changed from a vacuum-operated valve to a six-wire stepper motor. Or were you merely pointing out that you have re-purposed the sensor in your car after having removed the stock ECU? The "HITACHI BOOST SENSOR" that is above the passenger side wheel is reading free air. Its clearly a baro sensor. |
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yeah, I think I was confusing the EGR Boost Sensor Solenoid, for a second sensor.
anyways, it references the exhaust flow back into the intake. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1355329431 |
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