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18psi 04-18-2014 09:10 AM

OP
I'm sure you hear this every day, but I'll say it again:

you are an idiot.

Quality control bot needs to closely monitor this thread.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-18-2014 09:11 AM

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I wouldn't use a 35r unless I was aiming to make a minimum of 600 hp.

You're dyno will look like this
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397826671

Leafy 04-18-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1122818)
I wouldn't use a 35r unless I was aiming to make a minimum of 600 hp.

You're dyno will look like this
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397826671

It wont spool nearly that well on a 1.6

18psi 04-18-2014 09:13 AM

you guys are making crazy assumptions that he'll even get far enough to dyno this retarded plan of a setup

Chiburbian 04-18-2014 09:51 AM

I am all for you doing whatever the hell you want to do, but in my opinion you are using your "availability of 1.6 motors locally" as an excuse to make your life suck.

1.6 is a cool motor, and having many 1.6's around is a good thing. But you only need ONE. I was able to pick up a (non-vvt) 1.8 motor assembly (everything but exhaust manifold) for about $400 local. Even if you are getting the 1.6's for free, I don't see the math working out in your favor. You spent all this time doing research, why blow your wad on a questionable initial decision when you have already proven you have the patience to plan? Keep an eye out, let people know what your budget is and you will find a 1.8 that is in decent shape for cheap eventuallly. Ideally you would find a full powertrain with 6-speed and maybe more for a big discount over buying the trans on it's own.

Whatever you do, good luck. I just think that you will be spending a LOT of money and won't be happy with the results. Have you ever ridden in (or better yet driven) a 300hp Miata?

thenuge26 04-18-2014 10:10 AM

How many 1.6 blocks to you plan to use on this build? How are the extras lying around in your garage going to help? Wouldn't it be better to add $500 to your $15k build and start with a 1.8? You'd have better power up top, there is literally no downside to it.

soviet 04-18-2014 10:10 AM

i lol'ed at the fuel system

18psi 04-18-2014 10:15 AM

But guys, he did a lot of research, he knows what he's doing.

HERP DERP

AlexL 04-18-2014 10:18 AM

We need a meme for telling people to just get a 1.8 when they tell us they're going to build a 1.6.

OP, just get a 1.8 and build it once... ;)

18psi 04-18-2014 10:22 AM

This thread is going to turn into eggplant real quick.

AlexL 04-18-2014 10:22 AM

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Fireindc 04-18-2014 10:24 AM

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lol, and i thought my 1.6 was laggy with the greddy turbo.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397832374

DaveC 04-18-2014 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by AlexL (Post 1122844)
We need a meme for telling people to just get a 1.8 when they tell us they're going to build a 1.6.

:brain:

dieselmiata 04-18-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1122846)
This thread is going to turn into eggplant real quick.

Too late.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397831283

Chiburbian 04-18-2014 10:30 AM

OP: Ok ok guys, I give up. I will build a 1.8...
...by boring out a 1.6 and offset grinding the crank, getting custom pistons and rods...

18psi 04-18-2014 10:32 AM

:laugh:

Leafy 04-18-2014 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Chiburbian (Post 1122852)
OP: Ok ok guys, I give up. I will build a 1.8...
...by boring out a 1.6 and offset grinding the crank, getting custom pistons and rods...

Well you would save ~50 pounds off the nose of the car. Just be sure to put a Z6-VE head on it please.

Braineack 04-18-2014 10:35 AM

how to build a 450hp 1.6L:

$3200 body kit

nitrodann 04-18-2014 10:39 AM

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Dann

Redheadedstepchild 04-18-2014 10:51 AM

I have not driven a 400hp+ miata. My "passenger seat experience" was limited to an ls swapped miata. Granted it's a profoundly different setup then a high psi 4cylinder. I'm going to try my best to take your criticisms with a grain of salt. I'm new to miata's. Fairly new to Mazda in general for that matter. Only other Mazda I've owned besides my 06' and 08' mazda3 was an 88' rx7 convertible with a tII swap. So be gentle. I appreciate the "editing" of my build thread though. The 1.8 vs 1.6 comparison has been beaten to death. This early in my build, most of the parts I've purchased thus far are compatible with either motor. Tracking one down would prove difficult but not impossible. Keep it coming guys, criticism is always welcome.


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