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Old 04-08-2013, 06:58 PM   #21
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ah ha!

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Funny how things that start out seaming easy get out proportion real quick. Can you help me with a parts List so i can start ordering things i am going to need? My goals here are simply to get my 1.6 running reliably ON THE TRACK in Texas heat with headers back exhaust and custom intake.

Things i will need to do seems to be adding up and i am a little unsure on what exactly i need.
1. MSPNP Gen2 and AFM delete
2. New injectors Hustler recommends EV6's
3. Prob going to need AFR MTX-L?? Water temp and Oil temp I like Defi stuff.
4. VTPS prob go with Wells201 one that Brain recommends and has a write up on. Edited because i fail.
5. Do i need an adjustable fuel pressure gauge? was looking at one that 5Xracing does.
6. Coolant reroute, ducting <--- added. I am already working on this 18 PSI pointed it out so i thought i would add it.
7. Next??

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Old 04-11-2013, 03:27 PM   #23
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I dont ever recommend the BMW TPS. I like the Wells201 mod.
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6. What am i missing?
To address the cooling system

a coolant re-route
possibly a better than stock radiator too
everything shrouded tightly

The list grows because you mentioned the words "track" and "reliably"

Those 2 key words make a very short list become a very long one
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To address the cooling system

a coolant re-route
possibly a better than stock radiator too
everything shrouded tightly

The list grows because you mentioned the words "track" and "reliably"

Those 2 key words make a very short list become a very long one

I have had good luck at the track all last year with no heat related issues cept for blown Heater core hose. I'm working on coolant reroute already to keep #4 happy.
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If you are keeping the engine stockish, I don't know that you NEED new fuel injectors. The stockers have some room to play, although your car will run better with a more modern design.

In any case, my bigger concern is the upcoming MS learning curve. If you keep your stock injectors, you can use the MSPNP base map while you come up to speed a bit. Swap the injectors and mess with "Req. Fuel" as a second step rather than doing both at once.

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If you are keeping the engine stockish, I don't know that you NEED new fuel injectors. The stockers have some room to play, although your car will run better with a more modern design.

In any case, my bigger concern is the upcoming MS learning curve. If you keep your stock injectors, you can use the MSPNP base map while you come up to speed a bit. Swap the injectors and mess with "Req. Fuel" as a second step rather than doing both at once.

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That is actually not a bad idea thanks for the input.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:02 PM   #28
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Same dyno as before This is the same car as before with MS3 tuned by me on the road. full exhaust and intake. That's it.

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20 honest HP gain on a normally aspirated 1.6. Nice!
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Props added for doing it right and apparently doing it well enough to gain 20 hp!
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Nice numbers, what does your afr target table look like if you dont mind posting.
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Nice man! I was genuinely surprised to see you took our advice and applied it to your car.
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And THIS is why any time someone asks "what should I do about" with anything A/F related we say "engine management" instead of bandaids! An honest 6 lb/ft of torque and 18 HP gained. You aren't getting that from a fuel pressure regulator!

Great to see someone listen to good advice and then post up the results

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Nice numbers, what does your afr target table look like if you dont mind posting.
Im not going to pretend this is perfect but it is putting me around 13.1-12.9 when on the track under full WOT. Around town it is great and same on the highway. I have track video to back this up if interested cam can see AFR gauge. There is still plenty of fine tuning i can do if i had the time/will.

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Since you are normally aspirated, you should rescale your tables to top out at 105 or 110 kPa. That will double your resolution. As currently configured, half your table is wasted.
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Since you are normally aspirated, you should rescale your tables to top out at 105 or 110 kPa. That will double your resolution. As currently configured, half your table is wasted.
I didn't even know i could do that thanks for the tip.
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