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Old 12-27-2008, 02:42 PM   #41
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They are very high for a stock 1.6
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..? Spec is like 190+ IIRC.
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i'm running ~13psi on a 10:1 comp. stock engine.......
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:26 PM   #44
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looking to find out what will go first on my motor its a 99 miata with FM turbo kit on it has full turbo back exhaust and link ecu. i want to have it tune for 15psi but i want to know what it going to go first on the motor.
LOL @ Piggy Link. You need to address engine management or you'll be building another motor.


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i'm running ~13psi on a 10:1 comp. stock engine.......
Sure. With a Hydra. Incidentally, do you need a cookie or something?
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:27 PM   #45
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Ya I want to run a new ecu but not sure what to run. Seeing how as the car has the 8 fuel injectors.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:37 PM   #46
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Ya I want to run a new ecu but not sure what to run. Seeing how as the car has the 8 fuel injectors.
lol maybe if you read more stuff here you'd know what to buy.
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i'm a biker living in london UK, and i've discovered 3 major ways of pozzing up unsuspecting negs. the first i discovered by accident when i was ******* a guy and the condom broke. i said i was sorry, and i was. but later on it made me smile. then i was doing another guy, and the condom broke when i put it on. i fucked him anyway, feeling guilty and horny as hell at the same time. then i started pricking the rubbers in their packets, so that when i started *******, they'd split. but this doesn't always work, so now, to be extra sure, i go to clubs with a pair of nail scissors, pick up a handfull of condoms, go to the loo (john), sit down and carefully cut open the packets, remove the condoms and snip a bit off the tip. the i roll it back up and slide it back into the packet. then i look for guys who are into safer sex only. i've done 100's of guys using this method over the years.

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Ya I want to run a new ecu but not sure what to run. Seeing how as the car has the 8 fuel injectors.
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..? Spec is like 190+ IIRC.


I remember the factory spec calling for anything between 135 and 192 being within spec for a 1.6 as long as the spread isn't more than 20 points. Must look weird to me because at this altitude I've never seen a 1.6 pull more than about 185 for a factory stock motor.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:52 PM   #51
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That was downright polite. Chew glass.
If you're the same savington that is a mod on miata.net then your rudeness on this site is inconsistent. It really does puzzle me why some of you guys have to be so rude when saying nothing will have a similar effect.

If you have nothing nice to say, why not say nothing.

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If you're the same savington that is a mod on miata.net then your rudeness on this site is inconsistent. It really does puzzle me why some of you guys have to be so rude when saying nothing will have a similar effect.

If you have nothing nice to say, why not say nothing.

There are two schools of thinking for newbie behavioral modification. One school tends to ignore their remarks/questions, and hope the problem will solve itself or go away. The other school tends to beat the newbie into submission until they learn that there "IS" in fact a search function, and the car "HAS" been around for around 20 years so they are not special in their question.

That being said, this board is pretty much entirely of the second school of thought and will most likely not change. You personally can maintain your ideals and stay quiet, but attempting to change our collective attitude will result in epic fail.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:09 PM   #53
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If you're the same savington that is a mod on miata.net then your rudeness on this site is inconsistent. It really does puzzle me why some of you guys have to be so rude when saying nothing will have a similar effect.

If you have nothing nice to say, why not say nothing.


It puzzles you because you have seventeen posts and you clearly spend nearly no time here. This is not a polite forum. There are a lot of very intelligent people who read on these boards and post regularly. We've discussed a myriad of topics, and every single discussion is accessible through the search function. In addition, the best discussions and ideas are summed up and put into the useful posts section. I turboed my car using information entirely from the search function on this site and the Useful Posts section, so I know for a fact that it's possible and damn easy to do. When new members come onto this site with 8 posts and completely ignore the search function and the hours of effort senior members have put into the FAQs and sticky topics, it's not only insulting, it's unbearably annoying. It clutters the forum with absolutely useless topics on the exact same thing: what turbo is good for the car, how do I turbo it, what ECU options are available, when all of those questions have been discussed so in-depth there are literally members building the ECUs themselves.

Saying nothing is like letting your dog **** on your couch; if you never scold it, it never knows what it did is wrong. We are incredibly harsh to new members who disrespect the forum and its older members by ignoring the information that is easily available to them because they either get the **** off the forum, in which case there is nothing lost, or they wise up and become contributing members. There are at least a dozen people here who will tell you about how they were flamed badly as a new member, and they all have a Subscriber logo and a thousand posts or more, and they contribute to the site on a daily basis.

I am the exact same person who mods Miata.net. That site caters to the folks who want a nice, friendly atmosphere in which to discuss the car. This site caters to a totally different audience; we are the hardcore DIYers, the people who pioneer things like the Toyota COP upgrade and Megasquirt as one of the prominent ECU options for the car. We have absolutely no tolerance for lazy newbies who expect us to hand-feed every bit of information to them. If you want to turbo your car, and join this community, you'll work for it, and you'll learn a shitload about your car and contribute to the site at the same time.

Tough love is practiced in spades at MiataTurbo. If you don't like it, this isn't the site for you.
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I remember the factory spec calling for anything between 135 and 192 being within spec for a 1.6 as long as the spread isn't more than 20 points. Must look weird to me because at this altitude I've never seen a 1.6 pull more than about 185 for a factory stock motor.
Same gauge? My motor punched out 4 cylinders at 145-160 on one gauge, and 4 cylinders between 185-200 on another. With a properly-calibrated gauge, you want to see at least 180 across all 4 cylinders; if you don't know about the gauge, then the spread is what's more important.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:13 PM   #55
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LOL, this site is harsh!
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Saying nothing is like letting your dog **** on your couch; if you never scold it, it never knows what it did is wrong. We are incredibly harsh to new members who disrespect the forum and its older members by ignoring the information that is easily available to them because they either get the **** off the forum, in which case there is nothing lost, or they wise up and become contributing members. There are at least a dozen people here who will tell you about how they were flamed badly as a new member, and they all have a Subscriber logo and a thousand posts or more, and they contribute to the site on a daily basis.

I am the exact same person who mods Miata.net. That site caters to the folks who want a nice, friendly atmosphere in which to discuss the car. This site caters to a totally different audience; we are the hardcore DIYers, the people who pioneer things like the Toyota COP upgrade and Megasquirt as one of the prominent ECU options for the car. We have absolutely no tolerance for lazy newbies who expect us to hand-feed every bit of information to them. If you want to turbo your car, and join this community, you'll work for it, and you'll learn a shitload about your car and contribute to the site at the same time.

Tough love is practiced in spades at MiataTurbo. If you don't like it, this isn't the site for you.

Sav,

This should be a mandatory newb read! Well said.

There could be a standard informative response to newbs starting threads that have already been covered to death. One that points out their stupidity but also gives links to all the stickies that cover the common newb questions.

Of course there is something to say for baptism by fire. Weed out the weak right off the bat. I'm afraid if too many get run at the start that some good people and ideas will be missed in the future. That's why there was the shakeup and crackdown a few months ago.
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yeah, this site fucked up, because life is fucked up. You can provide your input in this thread:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t29750/
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Of course there is something to say for baptism by fire. Weed out the weak right off the bat. I'm afraid if too many get run at the start that some good people and ideas will be missed in the future. That's why there was the shakeup and crackdown a few months ago.
This is my point.

Sav's post above was very good, but I think there is an argument that says to grow a community a collective needs to show some respect to individual posters regardless. Savington is very polite and helpful on miata.net yet swears at posters on this site - I know which Savington I prefer.

Individuals don't learn by being abused, but I accept this is a very good forum and has grown in spite of it.

Carry on

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Individuals don't learn by being abused, but I accept this is a very good forum and has grown in spite of it.
the moral of the story is that your original question was not very well thought out, does not really help anybody, and is so ambiguous that it can hardly even be answered. I believe this forum has grown so much because of this attitude, I get tired of organizations being so damn PC, its like a breath of fresh air to come on here. I think a good start would be to look at the work others have done and that works for them and figure out why they have done it that way. Look at the signatures that people have and do some searching to figure out what it all means, you might learn quite a bit. This forum has been awesome to be a part of and ive read through all of the stickied threads many times and frequently reference back to them because they are very helpful and have some dense info. (I cant say enough for the work braineack has done in writing them all up.)

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Respect is given where respect is due. I am extremely polite and totally willing to spend a lot of time with a newbie who does his research and has a cursory idea of what he's talking about. Examples are tough to find, but I'll try:

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t28987/
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t29354/

My counter-question is this: Do we grow a community of people who type like they're text messaging, couldn't find the search function on a map, and just want to get their answers and leave, or do we cater to the folks who want to really learn about their cars and are willing to do the legwork to gain the knowledge?

Miata.net is like Costco; this place is like a country club. If I had to deal with some of the asinine shitheaps that shop at Costco on a daily basis at my country club, I'd leave.

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