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Old 01-18-2010, 07:17 PM   #1
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As the title states I am having a interesting hesitation or stumble when cold. I will accelerate when it gets around the 3k range it just boggs down then when it is a round 4k it takes off like a raped ape. I am still na at this time. I have changed the plugs, wires and cleaned out the throttle body. Neither of these have done any good. I am shure it has not hurt but there has not been any change.

I am thinking it may be a sticking EGR valve that is causing this issue. Has anyone had this problem? If so was it the EGR or was it something else.

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it's vvt and warm up mode. my car has been doing it for years. i capped my egr a few months ago and it's the same it has been.

idle to 3500 is boggy and feels like it's having problems then 3500+ all power. once the car get to about 145*+ it stops
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VTCS, not VVT. it switches over at 60C.

if you look under the throttle body, there's a green one-way valve on a vacuum line to an actuator. pull that and plug it and it'll leave those VTCS butterflies open all the time.
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Jeff- My car is the same cold and hot below the 3kish mark.

Y8s- If I remove the line and cap it will it set a code?

I got a recless driving ticket the other day partially due to this. I think the other part is my lightened flywheel. I think the combination of both makes it exagerated. I was turning left from a stop and it surged and the back tires slid.

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are you running the stock ECU or something else in parallel?

maybe you have a bad water temp sensor?
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Y8s- The car is still stock ECU. I need to get the proper wireharness for my Adaptronic, but first I need to either sell the harnes that came with the unit that I got from Stein or the whole unit.

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Y8s- It looks like that cured the problem. Thank you.

I wonder if the lack of power on warmup has any thing to do with the recall thatwas performed. If I remember right people were complaining about there beeing a lack of power after it was performed.

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those butterflies should open all the time once the car is warmed up. if they're closed, the car will have some crappy low end.
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That's exactly what it feels like. It still picks up around 4k but it is a smother transition now.

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VTCS, not VVT. it switches over at 60C.
i know the vtcs stops being lame after warm up but doesn't the vvt moving while vtcs is in warm up add to the power jump?
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i know the vtcs stops being lame after warm up but doesn't the vvt moving while vtcs is in warm up add to the power jump?
on a stock car, it's only a few hp. the VTCS is more like going from 5% throttle to 100% throttle.
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on a stock car, it's only a few hp. the VTCS is more like going from 5% throttle to 100% throttle.
That is exactlky how it felt. Since I have pluged the line it has not acted up. Has anyone figured out why this happens? What part would fix this problem besides just pluging the line?

I am sort of ocd about the car opperating as designed but I want more power. I know this is very contradictory but that is how I am. Thank you to all who have helped me out in the matter.

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Someone mentioned it might have been part of the factory ECU recall... leave the butterflies closed even when warm. that's silly though.

anyway, it feels like you go from 5-100% throttle because they basically ARE throttles.
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You could go the extra mile and remove the butterflies & shaft altogether and profit. Not sure how much power it would be worth but if Braineack went to that much trouble to thin down his throttle shaft (which then lost a screw with amusing consequences) then it must be worth totally removing a restriction in the runners like an inoperative VTCS system.
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