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Hey guys, I’m dumb and decided to not go the standard LS coil or GSXR coil route for a few reasons. Instead I’m using Audi R8 VAG coils. I’ve seen a few pictures floating around on here of others doing the same for the VVT motors. I ran across this from an old thread and wanting to see if I can source those spacers.
Looks like you’ll be doing some measurements and grinding. VAG parts are...not high quality. If you have access to a lot cause you live in Germany or something, go for it. Those are, AFAIK, generic VAG coils on most modern VWs and Audi’s, not just the r8.
If I did go that route I’d use IGN 1As over the standard D585s. Not against the 1As they’re just on the pricey side when the genuine VAG coils can be had for under $25 a piece.
My backup track car and daily driver is a 2007 Audi S4. It uses those same coils. I have replaced five in the past two years. I get them from O'Reilly's for about $21 with my discount. I have not had to replace one of those yet, just the ones that came with the car when I bought it. I always have a spare coil in the car, and the tools to replace it. It's pretty easy to do.
I always thought the Toyota COP was the go to. A couple places sell plug and play ones for around $200
Weak spark, not capable of high dwell times.
For stock engine power w/ MS it's fine. Pushing big power/high boost, you'll need a more robust solution. D585 LS1 coils are great and cheap but there are better (usually more expensive) options out there.
Currently using r35 coils on my
build. I can’t stand the use of plug wires. It’s a step backwards imo. Not as good as the ign1 coils but up there in the top 3 for coil output.
Found a solution to this from the guys over at SPS Motorsport in Germany. Saw it on one of their posts and talked to them about buying one. New engine harness to come with an EMU Black powering it all. Freshly rebuilt VVT motor with the bowls cleaned up and some intake runner work with all the solid power bolt ons. Praying it’ll make 160ish on E85.
I come from the VW world and my other car is a 2009 VW GTI. The "r8" coile are basically the same damn thing as the VW coilpacks other than they are red. Most people go with them because "red means racek0r" mentality.
The coilpacks as mentioned above are not of hte highest quality and while they might be the best VW solution yet I would surely like to hope that other coilpacks are better. I replace my coilpacks every 12-18 months.
If you do go the VW route I would suggest you keep a spare or four on hand.
As for buying replacements check 034 motorsports (fwiw they sell billet coilpack adapters to earlier vw motors), shopdap, and ECS tuning.
These coils are not bad, especially the NGK-branded ones. I know a handful of guys running 400+hp on those (in VW engines) with no problems for a couple of years now.
I've never seen a genuine red one fail yet. These coils will easily handle 300hp PER CYLINDER, they have a rubber seal that squeezes on the spark plug so tight that you don't have to actually mount the coil and fasten it down, they have a metal shield around the stem to reduce EMI, they are cheap and abundant, connectors and pins are readily available.
I've never seen a genuine red one fail yet. These coils will easily handle 300hp PER CYLINDER, they have a rubber seal that squeezes on the spark plug so tight that you don't have to actually mount the coil and fasten it down, they have a metal shield around the stem to reduce EMI, they are cheap and abundant, connectors and pins are readily available.
This is why I chose them. When they were dwell tested by a buddy they were very efficient, he even started test fitting them in his 1.5JZ because of the results he saw.
03-08-2020, 08:49 PM
Audi R8 COPs
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