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nitrodann 04-30-2017 11:03 PM

Boundary pumps, what seal do they come with, pics inside
 
Is this the legit seal that boundary ships with?

If not, what seal is it? I can tell you its as hard AF and feels like a kids toy.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...81477f9924.jpg


Dann

nitrodann 04-30-2017 11:28 PM

The letters read 'TC', and 'cxlk'.

Dann

aidandj 05-01-2017 01:46 AM

Hmmm. Wonder if my giant oil leak on the front of the motor that I installed yesterday has anything to do with that. If it turns out my leak is from the crank seal I will update.

I would contact Boundary directly. They aren't sponsors here and may not be watching.

LownSlow616 05-01-2017 10:50 AM

I hope trackspeed uses a different seal. I didnt really look at mine..just lubed up the inside and installed it. Im not goimg to be happy if i have a leak on first start up

shuiend 05-01-2017 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by LownSlow616 (Post 1410240)
I hope trackspeed uses a different seal. I didnt really look at mine..just lubed up the inside and installed it. Im not goimg to be happy if i have a leak on first start up

​​​​​​​I doubt TSE uses a different seal if they just sell the pump. No clue if they change to OEM if installing on a motor the build.

aidandj 05-01-2017 12:14 PM

Numbers are probably 50,5 for 50.5mm outer diameter. 36.5 for inner diameter.

If someone could measure an OEM seal we could compare.

But its probably the right dimensions. I have an OEM seal at home I can compare to.

nitrodann 05-01-2017 07:44 PM

The dimensions are right, its just that no one I know recognizes the brand at all and I wonder if this seal 'accidentally' ended up on this pump between leaving boundary and arriving at my shop.

Dann

aidandj 05-01-2017 07:49 PM

AFAIK boundary does not modify the pumps themselves in any way other than the gears.

For example I just found that my allen plug leaks. Hopefully not my main seal. I'll know more after I let the rtv dry.

nitrodann 05-01-2017 07:52 PM

Yes but does the OEM pump body come with a seal installed when boundary gets it?

Or does boundary fit a seal?

If so do they fit this seal?

Dann

Savington 05-01-2017 08:47 PM

Dan, didn't you get that pump from me?

Colipto 05-01-2017 11:12 PM

Dropping in to say i am planning on replacing that seal that came with my boundary pump as well - I had a leak at the front and I'm sure this is the cause. Could be, haven't pulled the seal yet - soon™

nitrodann 05-02-2017 02:13 AM

Andrew I have purchased a few of these from different vendors, and I cant remember who this one came from. I Just want to know if its an abnormal seal or if we did something wrong during assembly because we have had so many leaks on so many builds.

Dann

Colipto 05-02-2017 05:49 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...946f9009ce.jpg

I pulled my ATI damper today, just to confirm. pic attached I have a new camshaft seal from mazda i never used when i first put this together - I thought the one that came would be good. Mine came from FAB, but its prob the boundary manufacturer putting these seals in i would think.

aidandj 05-02-2017 05:50 PM

This gives me hope. I'll be pulling mine next week.

nitrodann 05-02-2017 06:02 PM

Motherfucker.

Well, we have some answers at least.

Thanks,
Dann

LownSlow616 05-02-2017 06:18 PM

God dammit. Now I don't even want to start my car for the first time without replacing the seal. Thanks BE. Hope it was worth the $10 that you saved on every pump.

LownSlow616 05-02-2017 06:33 PM

Savington? Any comments?

I bought my stage 2 pump from TSE back in December. Installed it, but havnt started the engine yet. How do I know if mine has a shitty BE seal or an Andrew Kidd approved seal?

dleavitt 05-02-2017 06:41 PM

Tag for updates. Hope my TSE shortblock won't leak.

aidandj 05-02-2017 07:22 PM

Afaik Andrew does not change the seals (he will have a real answer though). And I heard from Travis that they haven't changed anything in 15 years. It might just be bad luck.

mmmjesse 05-02-2017 08:14 PM

You are very much at the mercy of your vendor in many situations. There are times a vendor will change something in design and never tell you until you start having problems. I just put my BE pump on and hope it wont leak. mine didnt feel terrible.


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