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Old 01-31-2012, 04:10 PM   #21
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Will the same pump work in VVT and non-VVT applications?
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Yup! No more questions about fitment or performance. You get a pump put together and ready to go with its own blueprinted sheet!
im a little confused what is the difference between this new pump and the street/strip assembly... will the new gears be able to handle boost? 300-400hp? thanks. and sign me up when you get em rolling. i planned on buying one of your pumps anyways!
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Gear Size Differences:

There are actually 3 different thicknesses of gears. (Street) 91.5-00, (Street/Strip) 01-05 thickness, and a custom boundary thickness (Race) that's even bigger.

Labor Differences
Porting/Honing/Machining/Shimming

Every pump varies in the actual work we put into it. I don't have the conclusive list here, but the race pump gets the most, and the street is a blueprinted stock housing with our billet gears inside. The Street/Strip is in-between.

Torque Guard
I coined the race pump to have "torque guard" because it produces a lot of additional pressure in the low RPM range. So if you're running a turbo or super with lots of mid to low end torque this will really add some extra protection to the bearings.
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im a little confused what is the difference between this new pump and the street/strip assembly... will the new gears be able to handle boost? 300-400hp? thanks. and sign me up when you get em rolling. i planned on buying one of your pumps anyways!
its OEM spec. street/strip is (as mentioned before) made to flow more oil.
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your post kinda confused me travis, sorry im an idiot... im going boost. atleast 300hp

can i buy this one or do i need the street/strip one? i just want to make sure i buy the right one..
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You need a better understanding of how oil pumps function, blind.

They will all handle 300hp quite nicely.
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i know how they work, except for the shimming part (just havent looked into it yet)... im just trying to understand the differnce between the "street" pump and the "street/track" one... if i can get away with spending 250 vs 450 for no sacrifice. im all for it...

butttt since i see that the street one isnt shimable, im assuming i need the street/track one....?
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your post kinda confused me travis, sorry im an idiot... im going boost. atleast 300hp

can i buy this one or do i need the street/strip one? i just want to make sure i buy the right one..
If you're not running an 01-05 VVT Engine I would get the street pump. I need to figure out a new naming convention for these... I think that is what is confusing people...
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I need to figure out a new naming convention for these... I think that is what is confusing people...
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sounds good! please let me know when the street one is available! i will purchase!
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^I don't want to confuse this even more, but I think Travis was trying to say Street/strip for 01-05 and street for the non-vvt and earlier.

At least that's what he has said before and that's whats in the "chart" above.

Look at it this way:
Street- OEM pressure, but higher durability
street/strip- Higher PSI
Race - Even higher PSI and Torque Guard (higher low RPM PSI).

Let me help Travis out with an embed:
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Street now = "Basic Flow" for high HP cars with standard oiling requirements

Strip now = "VVT Flow" for high HP cars with VVT or other high oiling requirements

Race now = "Superflow" for cars needing more oil pressure at lower RPMs and excessive oiling requirements.

BLAO!
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I don't wanna whine, but I'm going to build a vvt motor and don't want to spend $420 on a pump... Any chance you could sell a 'street' quality vvt sized pump?
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sounds good! please let me know when the street one is available! i will purchase!
Sounds good!

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^I don't want to confuse this even more, but I think Travis was trying to say Street/strip for 01-05 and street for the non-vvt and earlier.

At least that's what he has said before and that's whats in the "chart" above.

Look at it this way:
Street- OEM pressure, but higher durability
street/strip- Higher PSI
Race - Even higher PSI and Torque Guard (higher low RPM PSI).

Let me help Travis out with an embed:
Thanks!

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I don't wanna whine, but I'm going to build a vvt motor and don't want to spend $420 on a pump... Any chance you could sell a 'street' quality vvt sized pump?
Unfortunately we can't. We can only get the castings in the Non-VVT size. So both of the higher end pumps have to go on the CNC machine for pump pocketing. Once the machinist has to turn the CNC machine on the cost has to go up.
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So...can we put together a group buy or at least can I get my name on a pre-order list?
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same for me. about to order engine parts soon
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Still working on it, should have an answer by tomorrow or the day after on what I can do.

Thanks!
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Group buy posted, please see the group buy section!

https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...501#post830501
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Left you message bossman. Call me. I building my radical 25-30 psi 2867 engine I need yo pump...
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Sounds good!



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Unfortunately we can't. We can only get the castings in the Non-VVT size. So both of the higher end pumps have to go on the CNC machine for pump pocketing. Once the machinist has to turn the CNC machine on the cost has to go up.
So the VVT guys have little options right now for a lower priced unit ? Where do you see the limits of the stock VVT pump in RPM and rough HP/TQ ratings. $420 is a huge percentage of the cost of setting up a built motor, and I have not convinced myself to go that way yet.
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