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Old 12-13-2013, 09:15 PM   #41
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Ah ok... hard to tell from stock photo.

My mistake.
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I don't see the appeal. My trackspeed COP kit bolts the coil down to the head, these do not.
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I'm guessing its mainly cost. And not having to worry about dwell. Having an ecu is a big decision for most people. And 300 bucks is nothing to someone that owns a 10K dollar race car, but to the backyard mechanic/average enthusiast its almost as much as new tires/ timing belt/maintenance parts. SO its a tough one because 300 is okay for most, its just the ecu/tuning that brings the costs up to 1K. (all new components, I'm sure you can find everything cheaply for that 90 model you may have, but I have a 2000 parts are just a little harder to find)

SO in the end 250 vs 1000. That it.
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All I mean is if you had a version with some tie-down brackets for a VVT head that I did not know about. I don't consider free-floating coils as acceptable either.
We'll do LS coils for VVT motors in early 2014. Similar price to our Toyota coils, similar wiring, etc.
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So more like 2019?

I keed I keed
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:57 PM   #46
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well it seems that FAB9 has uploaded the connector us 99-00 need. Amazing how this guy works.
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Still wondering what kinda components are offered...Using the AEM brand controller only leaves 79 bucks to buy one coil, so I feel that there might be use of inferior components. Hm.....

Then there's the fact that it doesnt have the aem pt number or writing on the front of the controller. I really want to spend my money, but its sketchy.
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Probably because its not an AEM. It looks like one but according to the thread on Mazda-speed and m.net, its a Bosch part.

Fab9 Coil-on Plug - MX-5 Miata Forum
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DENSO Iridium IK24 spark plugs (compatible with pencil coils)
Kit is designed to support up to a system running 24lbs of boost pressure
4 DENSO CDI Compatible Pencil Coils
1 Bosch CD Ignition Module
Complete wire harness
Wire pin-out reference guide
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got an email from fab9, says he gots insider pricing.

Meanwhile I'm gonna look for cheaper sparkplugs.
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Ok so i just read through this thread and im still stuck. With money not an option, im looking for quality and performance. Should i buy the trackspeed COP kit or the Fab9Tuning COP kit??
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Both will tell you theirs is better.
No one here (that we know of) has tried both.

So why don't you be the guinea pig
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:34 PM   #51
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I won't comment on comparing the kits because I've never used the Toyota Coils but I can tell you what I offer.
  1. We are currently pushing 400+ whp with the same kit I ship to our customers.
  2. They do not need any sort of extra tie down or fastening bracket
  3. We offer completely PNP solutions
  4. Our kit also works very well with the factory ECU (you won't burn up coils).
  5. You'll be purchasing completely new components, with a warranty. Nothing picked off of a used Toyota.
  6. We've shipped 230+ kits in the past 4 months with one single return.
  7. Our kit IS compatible with every valve cover - Including VVT.
When used properly they can support 450whp.

I should mention:
- We're overwhelmed with orders so you can expect a 2-3 week turn around time.
- Some DIY Megasquirt ECU's have required modification to drive our ignition module properly (you must use 4 ignition outputs because of the weaker output signal).
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I should mention:
- We're overwhelmed with orders so you can expect a 2-3 week turn around time.
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When are tax sale orders shipping? I ordered my COP on April 3rd... still waiting.

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Old 04-30-2014, 05:50 PM   #53
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When are tax sale orders shipping? I ordered my COP on April 3rd... still waiting.

Keith
Hi Keith,

I don't show any orders still pending from the third. There is a chance it's already shipped. Send me your order details? Some kits have been delayed due to the connector inventory in the US but I don't show any that old.

Cheers.
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DIY NB2 Coil On Plug Option - 1997 Mazda MX-5 Miata Long-Term Road Test

Coils: '08-'09 Honda CBR1000RR; Denso p/n 129700-5150
Igniter: '97-'01 Audi A4 1.8 Turbo 8D0905351
I can post up P/N's of the Bosch connectors that you'll need for the igniter when I get home from work. I got mine from Mouser. You'll need to buy your "Ignition Subharness Connector" from EasternBeaver or Fab9. On my '94 this is a six pin connector (X16 in my FSM) with five pins populated. I am also going to use the coil harness from the Honda if I can, looks like the terminal on it is a Sumitomo 5x1 connector, which I will also have to source from EasternBeaver. When I get the harness I will do more research and post up the proper connector.

All told, DIY'ing this is only slightly cheaper than buying Fab9's kit, after the parts, connectors, wiring, etc. I'll be sitting right around $200 if you include the new terminal die for my ratchet crimper (which will get much more use than just this project). I could have saved by waiting for a better deal on used coils (~$20) and by getting a new Chinese igniter instead of a used Bosch (~$15). I am saving because I'm pretty sure the Iridium plugs I have use the screw on terminal adapter, and I already have expandable braided sleeving, heat shrink, a soldering iron, silver solder, etc. I am not saving because I will need a tach adapter of some sort. I am going to try the TachAdapter from AutoSport Labs and wrap it into the first part of the harness.

My plot here is to delete the OEM coil pack so I can do a spacerless reroute with the 1.8 water neck after tapping the boss on the passenger side for a heater core fitting and using the plugged passage for the temp sensor. Then I will swap my 99 engine/subframe into my car. Mod after that will be MS3, and either sell this setup and move to LS2 coils, or run it till it fails.

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Manufacturer is TE Connectivity.

828904-1 JPT Contact Wire Seal 1.2-2.1mm Insulation
828905-1 JPT Contact Wire Seal 2.2-3.0mm Insulation
282192-1 4-Pos JPT Connector Spring Lock
282193-1 5-Pos JPT Connector Spring Lock
2-964286-1 JPT Receptacle Contacts, Gold Plated 17-20AWG

I also found this in the catalog, it comes in a 4-pos and I don't know if it's needed but it's cheap and I'm getting one anyway.
963208-1 4-Pos Terminal Seal

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Old 05-03-2014, 12:48 PM   #55
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All told, DIY'ing this is only slightly cheaper than buying Fab9's kit, after the parts, connectors, wiring, etc.
We've been considering a DIY kit for guys looking to run their own configurations and harnesses. If this is something that might interest people I would not mind putting together package pricing. In fact a couple of you have contacted me for these components but like you said, the savings are not substantial and assembly requires specialty tools.

This being said it really boils down to your situation. Even for the guys running a custom management system, our "Hard-wire" kit is only $259.00 and is ready for full-sequential and 4 channel wasted spark setups.

A couple of things to consider is the build quality. We assemble on average 4 kits a day at this point so we've become very efficient. All measurements are precise and we use high quality materials - nylon flexible sheathing, adhesive shrink tubing...



All joints are soldered and properly sealed with marine quality adhesive shrink tubing.



And as a bonus we will sell you an intercooler and it and still only pay our $9 flat rate shipping.

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^dis guy... dis guy iz gud. srsly.
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Looks very high quality. Almost like something I'd do. After figuring out the costs, I decided to do it anyway because I like building things.
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Both will tell you theirs is better.
No one here (that we know of) has tried both.

So why don't you be the guinea pig
I actually have both sitting on my workbench, but will never make enough power to be able to do a "top end" test.

I've got a used TSE bracket and I happen to be using the same coil PN TSE ships with their kit, but I picked them up used before TSE even had their kit on the market. I've got 6-7 coils and at least 2 of them have "issues" after abusing them with my stock ECU but I've been too lazy to sort them out and re-install the TSE style kit.

I'm one of those guys who opted to pick up the Fab9 kit "sans assembly" so I could do my own harness and wire routing. I still have not figured out where to mount the module and until I do that, I won't have the harness done and I won't be able to test it.

I also have LS2 truck coils somewhere

The goal is to eventually build legit PNP harnesses for ALLTHECOILS but I'm nowhere near that yet. Ignition options: I haz them. I swear I'm going to have the most over built car on the planet.
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