Forged 1.6 Engine build!
07-26-2017, 04:10 PM
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We'll see, i have no doubts you are right!
Still need to cost up a few more bits and bobs, and then wait to see what throws a spanner in the works!
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07-27-2017, 07:29 AM
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Hey, has anyone heard of "no limit motorsport" they seem to have most of the parts I want, and at very good prices?
They have good reviews online as far as I can see, and offer reasonable rates on international shipping.
They have good reviews online as far as I can see, and offer reasonable rates on international shipping.
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07-27-2017, 09:22 AM
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It appears he's already made up his mind despite the amount of hand holding we've been doing. Seeking validation for insecurities of decisions made with resistance to the input offered from the hive mind, well, there's only so much we can do. I'm just going to sit back and see what happens.
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07-27-2017, 09:35 AM
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Sorry i've not had a chance to look through a lot of builds, I have been busy with work and other stuff. most of my spare time has been spent working on little car bits or finding where i can get the parts that i want.
as far as i can tell MKTurbo are selling turbo bits only, which is fine, but right now I am mainly concerned with my engine build. i'll look at turbo parts when i have completed my engine partslist. which is pretty soon i'd imagine.
so does that mean that people dont like NLM? or do they just not use them?
as far as i can see they are well reviewed outside of here on a general google search. they have a nice and easy parts browser as well.
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07-27-2017, 09:57 AM
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It appears he's already made up his mind despite the amount of hand holding we've been doing. Seeking validation for insecurities of decisions made with resistance to the input offered from the hive mind, well, there's only so much we can do. I'm just going to sit back and see what happens.
The 1.6 is staying, not sure if that is what you are talking about?
I wouldnt be posting stuff on a forum if I was not looking for advice.
Anything I import from the US gets import tax. 20%VAT and then 2.7% Duty on top (for most car parts, some things are upto 4%)
making things rather expensive.
I dont seem to be able to find a decent dealer for MX5 parts in the UK, apart from maybe htune, who i discovered yesterday.
their prices are Ok, but if i can get the same parts cheaper, including import tax from USA, then why not? does NLM have a bad rep around here?
I thought Fab9 was decent, Greg from the car passion channel has used and recommended them as a good place to find parts. but according to you guys they are awful, fine. i'm willing to listen, i dont want to get ripped off.
I have found somewhere else and I am asking if they are regarded as decent? if not, then I will just proceed to by my parts from htune.
no one has pointed out any flaws in my parts list line up?
as far as I am concerned that is the parts i will be using for my build.
I'm going to be getting my bores bored out to .5 oversize and slapping in forged rods and forged pistons.
I have had my head skimmed and tanked, I have had my crank polished and ready to go.
The only thing I can see left to do machine wise is on the block, boring out, a light deck and clean, and then slapping all the parts together.
i'm going to lap my valves in tonight, if they lap in Ok, then I dont need a valve job, if they dont then I will be getting one.
I'm not sure if I am missing something... please let me know if you have any issues with my current plans for my engine?
I am aware that my costings for turbo bits is a little unrealistic, but hey ho I'll roll with the punches.
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07-27-2017, 10:08 AM
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Stop using terms like" ill slap this part on" it makes you sound uneducated. There are only a few times when slapping can be used around here. None of them have to do with installing parts.
NLM. If a shop / parts wharehouse cant even be bothered to use a picture of the actual parts they are selling.........how gawd damn lazy are they? Its garbage dude, total **** garbage. To put that kit into perspective, I just sold a complete ARTech hot side with a 2560, for 1,100 bucks. Actual real deal quality stuff.
Its about to get ugly around here...quit posting,quit having machine work done, quit buying parts and start reading.
Instead of people helping, they are just going to start checking this thread out to see what type of retarded **** is going on. dont let that happen, it is within your control.
NLM. If a shop / parts wharehouse cant even be bothered to use a picture of the actual parts they are selling.........how gawd damn lazy are they? Its garbage dude, total **** garbage. To put that kit into perspective, I just sold a complete ARTech hot side with a 2560, for 1,100 bucks. Actual real deal quality stuff.
Its about to get ugly around here...quit posting,quit having machine work done, quit buying parts and start reading.
Instead of people helping, they are just going to start checking this thread out to see what type of retarded **** is going on. dont let that happen, it is within your control.
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07-27-2017, 10:43 AM
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No limit motorsports is a fine company. The pistons in my previous built motor came from them. They have been sponsors on here on and off over the years. I'm betting you could get them to price match fab9.
They are just a parts reseller though and not Miata specific.
They are just a parts reseller though and not Miata specific.
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07-27-2017, 10:55 AM
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For sake of transparency, I think that I may have confused this thread briefly for another. There has been a crop up of new members who are all posting excitedly about their future endeavors with the cars. Most of them unfounded ambitions with poor research and poor planning. The folks on this forum who have stuck it out the longest have had numerous failures. I made many failures myself, coming from a 1.6L as well. There's a serious wealth of knowledge, albeit sometimes buried, on this site.
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulder of giants."
Most of the work has been done for you. I'll admit, you are facing a bit more of a cost constraint due to import taxes and being the subject to local service costs for machining. However, the knowledge that we're trying to pass still holds water. We know what works and what doesn't because we've tried it. We know where there's a gap in the market and a lot of folks on this very forum have stepped up to fill in that void for the community. MKTurbo, SADFab, 949Racing, Trackspeed, Singulär, Kraken, KMiata, Hawley Performance (TheBandit).... all these folks are ACTIVE here. They are all contributing to a better and brighter future for any miata you could want to build.
To grasp at straws looking for a kit or even products by vendors you don't see mentioned often is simply going against the grain of collective experience. You can do whatever you want, and it's a great service to prove us wrong, but as a whole we've tried nearly everything with various degrees of success.
We know you're enthusiastic about this project. We know you're dealing with cost constraints. To do it the cheapest way with quality takes a certain level of luck. To do it right with the intention of not fixing mistakes in the future will take a certain level of financial commitment. This will end up saving you money believe it or not.
I apologize for my prior remark, but I still think what has been said is valid. You've got some old timers coming out of the woodwork commenting on your thread. You've got people who have been in and out of these cars with multiple motors, and turbo setups, and coil setups and transmission and driveline arrangements giving advice. Trust us, just a little bit.
If MKturbo is not a consideration, might I be so bold and recommend taking a look at this thread. It may have something relatively affordable, being developed by a member here and should have some products that may fit your plan.
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...anifold-93586/
Happy hunting.
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulder of giants."
Most of the work has been done for you. I'll admit, you are facing a bit more of a cost constraint due to import taxes and being the subject to local service costs for machining. However, the knowledge that we're trying to pass still holds water. We know what works and what doesn't because we've tried it. We know where there's a gap in the market and a lot of folks on this very forum have stepped up to fill in that void for the community. MKTurbo, SADFab, 949Racing, Trackspeed, Singulär, Kraken, KMiata, Hawley Performance (TheBandit).... all these folks are ACTIVE here. They are all contributing to a better and brighter future for any miata you could want to build.
To grasp at straws looking for a kit or even products by vendors you don't see mentioned often is simply going against the grain of collective experience. You can do whatever you want, and it's a great service to prove us wrong, but as a whole we've tried nearly everything with various degrees of success.
We know you're enthusiastic about this project. We know you're dealing with cost constraints. To do it the cheapest way with quality takes a certain level of luck. To do it right with the intention of not fixing mistakes in the future will take a certain level of financial commitment. This will end up saving you money believe it or not.
I apologize for my prior remark, but I still think what has been said is valid. You've got some old timers coming out of the woodwork commenting on your thread. You've got people who have been in and out of these cars with multiple motors, and turbo setups, and coil setups and transmission and driveline arrangements giving advice. Trust us, just a little bit.
If MKturbo is not a consideration, might I be so bold and recommend taking a look at this thread. It may have something relatively affordable, being developed by a member here and should have some products that may fit your plan.
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...anifold-93586/
Happy hunting.
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07-27-2017, 12:44 PM
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Stop using terms like" ill slap this part on" it makes you sound uneducated. There are only a few times when slapping can be used around here. None of them have to do with installing parts.
NLM. If a shop / parts wharehouse cant even be bothered to use a picture of the actual parts they are selling.........how gawd damn lazy are they? Its garbage dude, total **** garbage. To put that kit into perspective, I just sold a complete ARTech hot side with a 2560, for 1,100 bucks. Actual real deal quality stuff.
Its about to get ugly around here...quit posting,quit having machine work done, quit buying parts and start reading.
Instead of people helping, they are just going to start checking this thread out to see what type of retarded **** is going on. dont let that happen, it is within your control.
NLM. If a shop / parts wharehouse cant even be bothered to use a picture of the actual parts they are selling.........how gawd damn lazy are they? Its garbage dude, total **** garbage. To put that kit into perspective, I just sold a complete ARTech hot side with a 2560, for 1,100 bucks. Actual real deal quality stuff.
Its about to get ugly around here...quit posting,quit having machine work done, quit buying parts and start reading.
Instead of people helping, they are just going to start checking this thread out to see what type of retarded **** is going on. dont let that happen, it is within your control.
however. I do not intend to buy any turbo kit from them, so i dont really get what you are talking about. you even say a post down from this one
I will not be, based on feedback you and others have given ordering a turbo kit from them!
things are not going to get ugly, I will not stop posting. I will, however find some time to do some more reading. but i still really dont see what everyone is getting in a tissy about, just because i have found another reseller than the ones people normally use?
Oh and also, i'll slap parts on if i want to. Pretty sure that's a british thing anyway, that's quite a common saying here...
For sake of transparency, I think that I may have confused this thread briefly for another. There has been a crop up of new members who are all posting excitedly about their future endeavors with the cars. Most of them unfounded ambitions with poor research and poor planning. The folks on this forum who have stuck it out the longest have had numerous failures. I made many failures myself, coming from a 1.6L as well. There's a serious wealth of knowledge, albeit sometimes buried, on this site.
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulder of giants."
Most of the work has been done for you. I'll admit, you are facing a bit more of a cost constraint due to import taxes and being the subject to local service costs for machining. However, the knowledge that we're trying to pass still holds water. We know what works and what doesn't because we've tried it. We know where there's a gap in the market and a lot of folks on this very forum have stepped up to fill in that void for the community. MKTurbo, SADFab, 949Racing, Trackspeed, Singulär, Kraken, KMiata, Hawley Performance (TheBandit).... all these folks are ACTIVE here. They are all contributing to a better and brighter future for any miata you could want to build.
To grasp at straws looking for a kit or even products by vendors you don't see mentioned often is simply going against the grain of collective experience. You can do whatever you want, and it's a great service to prove us wrong, but as a whole we've tried nearly everything with various degrees of success.
We know you're enthusiastic about this project. We know you're dealing with cost constraints. To do it the cheapest way with quality takes a certain level of luck. To do it right with the intention of not fixing mistakes in the future will take a certain level of financial commitment. This will end up saving you money believe it or not.
I apologize for my prior remark, but I still think what has been said is valid. You've got some old timers coming out of the woodwork commenting on your thread. You've got people who have been in and out of these cars with multiple motors, and turbo setups, and coil setups and transmission and driveline arrangements giving advice. Trust us, just a little bit.
If MKturbo is not a consideration, might I be so bold and recommend taking a look at this thread. It may have something relatively affordable, being developed by a member here and should have some products that may fit your plan.
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...anifold-93586/
Happy hunting.
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulder of giants."
Most of the work has been done for you. I'll admit, you are facing a bit more of a cost constraint due to import taxes and being the subject to local service costs for machining. However, the knowledge that we're trying to pass still holds water. We know what works and what doesn't because we've tried it. We know where there's a gap in the market and a lot of folks on this very forum have stepped up to fill in that void for the community. MKTurbo, SADFab, 949Racing, Trackspeed, Singulär, Kraken, KMiata, Hawley Performance (TheBandit).... all these folks are ACTIVE here. They are all contributing to a better and brighter future for any miata you could want to build.
To grasp at straws looking for a kit or even products by vendors you don't see mentioned often is simply going against the grain of collective experience. You can do whatever you want, and it's a great service to prove us wrong, but as a whole we've tried nearly everything with various degrees of success.
We know you're enthusiastic about this project. We know you're dealing with cost constraints. To do it the cheapest way with quality takes a certain level of luck. To do it right with the intention of not fixing mistakes in the future will take a certain level of financial commitment. This will end up saving you money believe it or not.
I apologize for my prior remark, but I still think what has been said is valid. You've got some old timers coming out of the woodwork commenting on your thread. You've got people who have been in and out of these cars with multiple motors, and turbo setups, and coil setups and transmission and driveline arrangements giving advice. Trust us, just a little bit.
If MKturbo is not a consideration, might I be so bold and recommend taking a look at this thread. It may have something relatively affordable, being developed by a member here and should have some products that may fit your plan.
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...anifold-93586/
Happy hunting.
I get that you want to support the company's that have been created by people in the community and support the community. and i like that.
but at the end of the day, I will be buying my parts from whoever offers me the best deal for the parts I want. where i order them from should not matter, they will be the same parts weather i order from 949 or NLM.
i came here to ask about my parts list and for advice on what i would need doing to my block and head, not to be shouted at for "using the wrong parts dealer" parts are parts, a supertech piston from 949 will be exactly the same from NLM.
Please, i welcome advice and feedback, but when i dont seem to be getting advice about my parts, only about where i am buying them from, that is not really going to affect my decisions on what parts i am sticking in my engine.
Parts are parts. i just want to know which ones i should be buying and if they make makes sense.
seriously guys, i do want feedback and help!
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07-27-2017, 12:55 PM
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Toward the last part of my post I was trying to lean on the selection of a turbo kit/system. Parts are parts, you can get them wherever you want. But if you value service and support after the purchase....you will get what you pay for with some vendors offering miata parts at discounted prices.
Case and point: Downmented bought an AEM EMS4 stand alone with PnP harness and 4 bar map sensor from Fab9 which runs about $1,189+ship. Never got a basemap, despite promises made. Because of the lack of support and other standing issues, he ended up selling it for 48% of it's value and switched to a different system. This unit has never seen voltage. This also slips under the radar so Fab9 still continues to sell parts cheap, but never follows through with customer service where it's needed.
Yes when you support the community, the community supports you. Get whatever pistons you want from wherever but when you have questions about ring gaps or piston to wall specs, be prepared to dig around build threads because drop ship wholesalers will not have this answer for you especially if mixing and matching piston and ring manufacturers like many of us do for longevity. If you buy from 949 or TSE, you're an email and PM away from the answer because they eat sleep and breath this car, plus you've paid for the support that comes from buying products through them. They have built more motors and raced more events in Miata's throughout the year than No Limit Motorsports, THMotorsports, and other aftermarket automotive commerce sites.
For very generic things like an EFR supercore or gauges, I've used THMotorsports with great success at great prices. But these are oddball items and not necessarily miata dependent.
Case and point: Downmented bought an AEM EMS4 stand alone with PnP harness and 4 bar map sensor from Fab9 which runs about $1,189+ship. Never got a basemap, despite promises made. Because of the lack of support and other standing issues, he ended up selling it for 48% of it's value and switched to a different system. This unit has never seen voltage. This also slips under the radar so Fab9 still continues to sell parts cheap, but never follows through with customer service where it's needed.
Yes when you support the community, the community supports you. Get whatever pistons you want from wherever but when you have questions about ring gaps or piston to wall specs, be prepared to dig around build threads because drop ship wholesalers will not have this answer for you especially if mixing and matching piston and ring manufacturers like many of us do for longevity. If you buy from 949 or TSE, you're an email and PM away from the answer because they eat sleep and breath this car, plus you've paid for the support that comes from buying products through them. They have built more motors and raced more events in Miata's throughout the year than No Limit Motorsports, THMotorsports, and other aftermarket automotive commerce sites.
For very generic things like an EFR supercore or gauges, I've used THMotorsports with great success at great prices. But these are oddball items and not necessarily miata dependent.
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07-27-2017, 01:17 PM
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I meant only as a parts reseller are they ok. I would not touch that turbo setup from them with a 10 foot pole. I dealt with Adam there and he was great to work with. This was 7 years ago though, so things might have changed.
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07-27-2017, 01:26 PM
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Toward the last part of my post I was trying to lean on the selection of a turbo kit/system. Parts are parts, you can get them wherever you want. But if you value service and support after the purchase....you will get what you pay for with some vendors offering miata parts.
By the way I am sure shuiend(MKTURBO) would ship internationally, but probably contact you personally and tell you what it would cost and not feed you a like of crap like some other vendors you are exploring might...FYI throughout my time here he has given me a lot of time and feedback on my decisions with respect to my car. That I am thankful for and everyone here, once again, can help you you just need to listen and do a little more reading. Don't ask until you have read multiple sources that tell you at least something.
Trust me. I did it and still had much to learn. Good things take time.
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07-27-2017, 01:28 PM
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^^^This! I just bought my engine parts from FAB9Tuning. Did they come on time? Nope. Did I get customer feedback when I called and emailed over and over? Nope. Do I have the right parts: yes i have confirmed and cross referenced everything. Will I get any help if I have a question: ABSOLUTELY NOT. So when people on this forum tell you to do something a certain way you should listen. I am so surprised this group of people has continued to help you and act nice about some of your comments regarding what to do. It has been spelled out for you over and over.
By the way I am sure shuiend(MKTURBO) would ship internationally, but probably contact you personally and tell you what it would cost and not feed you a like of crap like some other vendors you are exploring might...FYI throughout my time here he has given me a lot of time and feedback on my decisions with respect to my car. That I am thankful for and everyone here, once again, can help you you just need to listen and do a little more reading. Don't ask until you have read multiple sources that tell you at least something.
Trust me. I did it and still had much to learn. Good things take time.
By the way I am sure shuiend(MKTURBO) would ship internationally, but probably contact you personally and tell you what it would cost and not feed you a like of crap like some other vendors you are exploring might...FYI throughout my time here he has given me a lot of time and feedback on my decisions with respect to my car. That I am thankful for and everyone here, once again, can help you you just need to listen and do a little more reading. Don't ask until you have read multiple sources that tell you at least something.
Trust me. I did it and still had much to learn. Good things take time.
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