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Old 07-23-2013, 09:52 AM   #21
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why piggyback?

toss the **** ECU and the **** MAF.
Agreed, but it is $750 plus for a mega squirt and wife says no at this time in our financials :(
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I mean you're talking about spending money to MAYBE make 1rwhp...
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Agreed, but it is $750 plus for a mega squirt and wife says no at this time in our financials :(

if you're too poor to modify cars, or your wife wears the pants in the relationship, don't modify cars.
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if you're too poor to modify cars, or your wife wears the pants in the relationship, don't modify cars.
Im having fun and that's all that counts. Please don't insult me as my wife and I (and 4 kids) live in the real world and my car is a toy.
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$750 is too much, you are right. Instead why don't you spend $500 on a piggyback and $200 on a MSD box. It'll totally be worth saving that $50. Except your car will still suck.
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Im having fun and that's all that counts. Please don't insult me as my wife and I (and 4 kids) live in the real world and my car is a toy.
I live in the real world too. Except I choose to not have a wife and kids and modify my car.
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Im having fun and that's all that counts. Please don't insult me as my wife and I (and 4 kids) live in the real world and my car is a toy.
If I wanted to insult you, I would have said a whole lot of other things, trust me.

I'm not insulting you, I'm telling you the blatant truth. Lots of people get offended over it because the truth is not always pleasant to hear.

If by "having fun" you mean making terrible decisions and wasting tons of LITTLE amounts of money here and there that all add up in the end to equal a large chunk of change, sure thing: have fun with your car. The end result will be mediocrity and wasted money and effort, but at least you had "fun" along the way right? lol

You're not the 1st, or even the 100000th person to have this mentality.
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I still don't see why you want to spend money on something that will help so very very little. But only cause you a headache, and the runaround.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:01 PM   #29
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Wow, rain on my parade a little more please. If you want to paint your car pink and have purple spinners do so. Its your car. If your only here to criticize ... please ignore me. If I have these questions then Im sure others have them too. Soooo, I will experiment and learn, ask for advise when I must and share info as I get it.

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Anybody can modify "their" car even if the "mods" dont make any sense. As far as "wearing pants in the family". Like any "good" marrige ... we share a leg. Please keep the advise to cars and not my personal life.

All this is off topic ... sorry about the rant.
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<notes OP's location>
<notes OP's model year>

Yep, that blows. My recommendation is if you're going to go messing with your engine, ditch the 97 and go with an OBDI car if you want to play with the motor.

Why don't you put that $$ into your suspension? It'll be much more rewarding in my opinion. I'm also of the opinion that you're tilting at windmills with the MAF swap. Sorry, I just think you won't end up with the result you're looking for.
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Wow, rain on my parade a little more please. If you want to paint your car pink and have purple spinners do so. Its your car. If your only here to criticize ... please ignore me. If I have these questions then Im sure others have them too. Soooo, I will experiment and learn, ask for advise when I must and share info as I get it.
You might hate us now, but you'll hate yourself more if you bother with the time/$$$ investment of a larger MAF to maybe try to squeeze 1hp out of it.

We are saving you from yourself.
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Who's criticizing?

We've been trying to figure out your logic for a while now.

If you want to paint your car purple, or pink, most of the people here can understand that's a personal thing. You like it because of the way it looks.
Do you have something against the OEM MAF? Has it treated you poorly? Do you have a thing for the Ford MAFs? What is it? Do you want to change it based on it's looks?

I think only people with mental health problems(maybe others here too) do things that cost them money for no return. (CR is good at doing this, not us)
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Wow, rain on my parade a little more please. If you want to paint your car pink and have purple spinners do so. Its your car. If your only here to criticize ... please ignore me. If I have these questions then Im sure others have them too. Soooo, I will experiment and learn, ask for advise when I must and share info as I get it.

@ 18psi
Anybody can modify "their" car even if the "mods" dont make any sense. As far as "wearing pants in the family". Like any "good" marrige ... we share a leg. Please keep the advise to cars and not my personal life.

All this is off topic ... sorry about the rant.


I'm glad she makes you feel like you both share a leg. That's the key.

The difference between this site and others is we'll tell you straight up if you ask a stupid question or have a terrible idea.

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Other sites will hold your hand, coddle you, spoon feed you, and generally make you feel good about your terrible decisions at the time you're making them. Then you realize the truth after the fact.


By all means paint your car purple and put spinners on it. Its your midlife crisis, make the best of it.
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**** you OP. We will criticize who we want. Don't want criticism? Don't post.

We aren't going to hold your hand and tell you your farts smell good while you do stupid ****. If you can't handle that there's the door.
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Love you guys too, thanks for the help.
Good advise for the most part, time to save the exspensive stuff. So which engine mods shall I save for first?
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So which engine mods shall I save for first?
Besides megasquirt?

It depends on what you want to do with the car. You plan on turbo'ing it eventually?
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So which engine mods shall I save for first?

The ones you were about to read about in peoples build threads instead of asking dumb questions.

Seriously stop asking dumb questions and go read build threads. You will learn a lot more.
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The only dumb question is the one not asked for fear of ridicule.

I am a newb but I refuse to believe that all mods have been tried. Sure, there is a generic tried and true method to everything we do. I just like to explore other options so I ask folks like you who have alot more experiance and knowledge in the area. From the good and bad responses I have recieved I know I can put the idea to rest.

No, I do not plan on a turbo. My plan ... one day ... if it will fit ... is the 3.7v6 out the current mustang. The whole motor only weighs 20lbs more than the 1.8, but that will be after my 1.8 fails or I kill it trying to do some DUMB mod that I didnt ask question about.
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good luck bro. I'm in sadomasochism and self-loathing too.
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The only dumb question is the one not asked for fear of ridicule.
No, the ones asked because you are too lazy to search are also dumb. You know they are dumb questions because when you find the answer you will feel dumb for asking it.

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I am a newb but I refuse to believe that all mods have been tried. Sure, there is a generic tried and true method to everything we do. I just like to explore other options so I ask folks like you who have alot more experiance and knowledge in the area.
How could you possibly know what has been tried and what hasn't if you haven't read anything?
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