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Old 01-27-2009, 04:55 PM   #1
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hi i have been thinking and i wanted to know what swaps there are for the obd2 miata i was looking into doing a sr20 or rb25 but will not pass CT emissions testing.
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nor will they be worth your time. RB's are too long and SR's require alot with the oil pan. If you want those motors, buy a 240.

I had an SR powered 240sx in CT and loved it. i wasnt OBD 2 tho.

stock engine or V8 seems like the only two reasonable engines for a miata.
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i have a friend that totaled his s2000 and its for sale for 2500 and im also looking into doing a vq35 aka g35 350z motor.
the miata power plant is ok but i dont like having a oil pump thay could go or a tranny that is a ticking time bomb. im not a fan of the v8 i like 6 and 4 bangers.
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s2000 is a peaky bitch, and is maxed out from the factory.

For the same price you can buy another 1.6 or 1.8 and turbo it.
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i have a friend that totaled his s2000 and its for sale for 2500 and im also looking into doing a vq35 aka g35 350z motor.
the miata power plant is ok but i dont like having a oil pump thay could go or a tranny that is a ticking time bomb. im not a fan of the v8 i like 6 and 4 bangers.
You're a stupid ******* newb that can't search, think, or use proper ******* grammar. You, fail. Use to be this forum IGNORED idiots that type like a five year old.
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i know the motor is maxxed out by honda but the 1.6 and 1.8 have the shity oil pump gears and shitty tranys then the diff is a 50/50 so i rather have the f22 or f20c in the car then later on turbo that motor.
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You're a stupid ******* newb that can't search, think, or use proper ******* grammar. You, fail. Use to be this forum IGNORED idiots that type like a five year old.
That's what I was going to say, but I remember being that noob (luckily at m.net) and decided to be nice.

Look dude, please tell us what kind of mechanical and fabrication skills you have, and what your goals are.

We have all seen the badass Datsun 510s and 260Zs with sr20det conversions in every car magazine. The guys that build those aren't doing it out of their garage with practically no experience and a $2500 budget.

You must come to understand that really fast. You are not about to build an awesome motorswap that will blow away everyone on this forum. That is unless you've got an extra $20K, mad fabrication skills, and some form of engineering degree and pratical design experience that makes you 15 shades better than the average lame newb we see around here.

If not then just give up. Now.

Luckily there are options, and if you can read, you can learn a lot about those options. Fixes for the weak tranny (plan on seeing over 250rwhp do we?) and oil pump (over 8K rpm?) are available much cheaper than any motor swap's complications and that motor/drivetrain's problems.
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to be honest there are about 20% of users on this fourm to help you and the othere 80% are just out to be dicks. thats what i have found here more dicks then help. and all of you dicks have nothing els better to do then sit on your asses and and read every thread and bust every persons chops.
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i am the co owner of a shop in stamford ct and we have been here for 30 years and getting stuff done is not the problem just trying to see what has been done and what has worked. that all but every other guy is an *** hole here
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i am the co owner of a shop in stamford ct and we have been here for 30 years and getting stuff done is not the problem just trying to see what has been done and what has worked. that all but every other guy is an *** hole here
since you have a 1.6, then the 1.8 BP engine works, in fact I believe it was used in a factory car at one point, can't remember which one though... The sr20 and rb are gay because every ricer fan boy has done that before. The VG30 or VQ would be nice but doubt they will fit with those overhead cams. Again those 2jJizz motors or whatever Toyota calls them are probably too long being an inline 6. The 1MZ-FE may fit, but I doubt it, and if it did would be a pain in the *** due to it coming from a FF platform car things are just weird. Also I have heard that the transmissions people use with the sr20's get shaky in the legs after a certain point, driving people to get t3h 6-speed from JDMimports.com the best place to source JDM parts on E-Bay with over 14,000^1/4^ good reviews.
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holy hell there is a good soul here thanks for the info mazda/nissan i think im going to buy my friends totaled s2000 and do the f20c swap and the thing were i siad i dont want to spend more then 2500 thats for the engine tranny ecu and wireing. i have helped my friend do a sr20 swap in a 240sx and him and his dad know a good amount at my shop. i was hoping to get some good info from people here but i guess ill only be lucky to get info from about 3 good souls here.
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That's because, if someone here wanted an S2000 engine, they would buy an S2000. That oil pump problem you speak of is not even really a problem. I have read about one, maybe two people that have had problems. Transmission will survive if you don't beat on it.
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i am the co owner of a shop in stamford ct and we have been here for 30 years and getting stuff done is not the problem just trying to see what has been done and what has worked. that all but every other guy is an *** hole here

If you had your own shop you would have already bought said $2500 S2000 knowing it was worth that to part it out.


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i have a friend that totaled his s2000 and its for sale for 2500 and im also looking into doing a vq35 aka g35 350z motor.
the miata power plant is ok but i dont like having a oil pump thay could go or a tranny that is a ticking time bomb. im not a fan of the v8 i like 6 and 4 bangers.
This only supports assumption that you are not in fact a shop owner (what kind of shop), but instead a ricer.
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it is a family owned shop we do every thing from repairs to body and mods. here is the link for all you non beleivers Nicos Foreign Car Repair. i also just talked to the owner of the s2000 and im getting the car dropped off this week.
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i am no way a ricer, i just dont like v8. i have had all the types of cars 86 camaro z28 with a sbc 350 and a turbo 350 trans to a bmw m3. and you are not a ricer if you like 6 and 4 bangers you dumb ****. a ricer is when you have a big *** wing and a can for a muffler and sub to blow out your rear window now thats ricer cuz if owning a 6 or 4 banger was ricer then your calling every one here a ricer you dumb ****. also if you read every thing you would see i said im the co owner. so suck my dick *** wipe.

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shoulda gone to Nicco's
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Are you the guy in the video?

If so, I apologize as it appears English may not be your first language.

You'll have to be patient with this crowd, but there is good information here.

Unfortunately we all tend to favor forced induction here.

There is some info on m.net about odd motor swaps.

In my personal opinion the S2000 swap is not at all worth it. You can get similar power much more easily with the Mazda motors.

If you want to attempt a difficult swap with a big payoff that isn't a V8...my dream swap is a rotary powered Miata. Most of the folks that dream about it have seen Fast&Furious too many times and think they will see 700hp or something. I just want a simple tuned twin turbo model in a lightweight car.

The only guy I've heard about doing it spent quite a bit of money and time on it. I would expect the S2000 swap to be similar, but with less exciting results.

You could sell that S2000 motor/drivetrain for near what you paid for the whole car, and put that towars a swap.

You won't find much information either way on successful oddball swaps. Really, I tried, looked, and asked a lot. There are only a few popular ones, and they all have eight cylinders. Some guy put in a Mazda 2.5L V6 from a Milennia with individual throttle bodies that was really bad ***. There is a video somewhere, and he said it was a lot of work and fabrication. That would probably be the sweetest driving Miata in the world...low end torque without V8 weight, top end of a turbo 4 without the lag.
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i am no way a ricer, i just dont like v8. i have had all the types of cars 86 camaro z28 with a sbc 350 and a turbo 350 trans to a bmw m3. and you are not a ricer if you like 6 and 4 bangers you dumb ****. a ricer is when you have a big *** wing and a can for a muffler and sub to blow out your rear window now thats ricer cuz if owning a 6 or 4 banger was ricer then your calling every one here a ricer you dumb ****. also if you read every thing you would see i said im the co owner. so suck my dick *** wipe.
Ok, I wrote the above post before you posted this.

Go lick your dad's *** out of your mom's asscrack so you don't have any more brothers that might be half as much of a dumbass as you are.


I was saying it supported the assumption many were making about rice, which we see a lot around here to defend dumbass ideas (like oddball, never attempted, pointless, dumbass motor swaps). Get some reading comprehension you pantywaist before I drive my *** up to CT and bitchslap you into oblivion in front of your whole family.
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i was thinking about doing the 13btt swap but the car needs to pass emissions in ct they plug into the obd 2 port when test and that motor is obd1. and fabbin is not to much of a big deal one of my friends owns imported cars of stamford who has the fastest street legal m3 in the us and no.5 in the world they are going to be helping me fab up every thing.
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