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Stehu 06-12-2011 09:18 AM

I got a vvt engine and a complete new turbo setup that's going in.

Guess I will be selling my cams then :) Does the msm valve cover fit any other miata head? :)

sixshooter 06-13-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 736692)
An aquantience had nitrous oxide dumped in the tank and raced until it exploded when his accord was stolen.

Orly? Just dumped it in, huh? :giggle:

tottestad 11-06-2011 05:00 PM

Anyone Know the stock timing table of an msm turbo engine?

Stehu 11-10-2011 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by tottestad (Post 792708)
Anyone Know the stock timing table of an msm turbo engine?

Yeah! PM me with your email adress and I can send the Hydra map for it :)

Braineack 11-10-2011 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 735873)
I don't see any detonation on those pistons.

Are we looking at the same pistons?

hustler 11-10-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 794223)
Are we looking at the same pistons?

I see nothing. It usually shows up around the quench pads, and they look fuzzy with carbon but fine to me.

jacob300zx 11-11-2011 03:11 PM

You should have got a VVT motor and Borg turbo form the get go. There is nothing special about the MSM motor. Its a 95 block, 99 head, with a tiny turbo that will put down like 200whp at 15psi, and an artifically low redline. The value of an MSM is in the fact that you get the whole car (bilsteins, t2r, axels, sport brakes, sways, springs, racing harts) for the cost of a regular NB of same year mileage.

Your best bet is to check the head to make sure its good, slap on another block and sell the whole setup to someone else to recoup the most money.

Braineack 11-11-2011 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 794280)
I see nothing. It usually shows up around the quench pads, and they look fuzzy with carbon but fine to me.


this one looks really suspect to me.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...0&d=1307562838https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...0&d=1307562838

johnjason 11-15-2011 12:59 PM

I HAVE 160,000 MILES ON MY RACE CAR MSM 2004, 1/8 MILE, 1/4 MILE, AUTO CROSS & DAILY RED LINES..... AEM CAI, NO CAT, GLASSPACKED MUFFLER & EVERYTHING ELSE STOCK. NO PROBLEMS EXCEPT 5 SETS CRACKED/BENT RIMS, 3 CRACKED WINDSHIELDS (stopped engine shaking with 3 engine shocks)... and a Mishimoto Radiator for heat management.... I also have 80,000 on a 2nd MSM 100% stock... 2 sets of cracked/bent rims... based on what you said, I will not go over 10lbs boost.... on both cars.... gone through 20+ sets of tires and 1 clutch change & 2 sets of brake pads... Oil changes every 2-3k... but no knocks....

jacob300zx 11-15-2011 01:21 PM

Do yourself a favor and get rid of those racing harts for a nice 15" setup.

johnjason 11-15-2011 01:31 PM

I DID, RH ARE SO WEAK, so I went to other 17" and they bent too. Went to 15, 16 and they did not mix well with "pot holes" or So. California Roads... Now on Axis 10 spoke rims with 1600lb rating per rim... no problems now... have 3 sets for 2 cars, got rid of all other rims... I use 225-35-18 on back and 215-35-18 front, Staggered, really BMW Z4 looks....

Faeflora 11-15-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hustler (Post 794280)
I see nothing. It usually shows up around the quench pads, and they look fuzzy with carbon but fine to me.

I had to look up what quench pad is. On these pistons, is it the outer face adjoining the valve relief cuts? I guess you mean the melted area on the piston below (supertech).

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1321382207



Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 794668)
this one looks really suspect to me.

Are you referring to the spotting in the carbon?

Braineack 11-15-2011 02:37 PM

yeah, spefically around the edges.

hustler 11-19-2011 11:45 AM

Yep, upon further review the referee says its det.

Doppelgänger 11-19-2011 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by johnjason (Post 795727)
I HAVE 160,000 MILES ON MY RACE CAR MSM 2004, 1/8 MILE, 1/4 MILE, AUTO CROSS & DAILY RED LINES..... AEM CAI, NO CAT, GLASSPACKED MUFFLER & EVERYTHING ELSE STOCK. NO PROBLEMS EXCEPT 5 SETS CRACKED/BENT RIMS, 3 CRACKED WINDSHIELDS (stopped engine shaking with 3 engine shocks)... and a Mishimoto Radiator for heat management.... I also have 80,000 on a 2nd MSM 100% stock... 2 sets of cracked/bent rims... based on what you said, I will not go over 10lbs boost.... on both cars.... gone through 20+ sets of tires and 1 clutch change & 2 sets of brake pads... Oil changes every 2-3k... but no knocks....

Get off our forum you stupid retarded fuck...and stop wearing those 1970s flower print m.netter shirts. God I should have fucked with your car when I had the chance...but I felt sorry for you after listening to you babble on and on to some poor schmuck at C&C.


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