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Old 04-23-2013, 09:25 AM   #21
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Somewhere in my patch harness from trackspeed the aem ecu connects to the dash. So there must be a wire that goes to the ecu to the dash. On the 1.8 at least.
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1.8 is different.
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1.8 is different.
Maybe, but stock my car still took the tach signal from the ignitor in each coil. You really just need to find the wring diagram from a 96 euro FSM.
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I have that here and already tried a sketch in page 1 on what I have to do...



My problem is that there is only a wire going from the igniter to the dash - as I will throw out the igniter there will be nothing firing the tach in dash. TO the igniter there are only two wires going from the ECU/MS - which I will both need as trigger for my coils. I thought one of the other 1,6 swapper could tell me their solution...
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It looks like that Yellow/Blue needs to go from your MS to your tach.
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@the 1,6 to VVT crew - how did you handle the Tach signal to the dash?
what coils are you using?
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what coils are you using?
Plan is to use the OEM VVT coils
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okay and you're saying you wont be able to send the tachout through the B/W wire to the ignitor and splice that the the Y/B?
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By B/W wire you mean the Nr. 5 B/W from your picture at the Toyota COPs thread?



That wire is not existent on that Euro past '93 MX-5 1.6...
See here:



So I think I will make a new wire to either the igniter or directly to the tach.
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Wait wait wait. If thats the case the tach should be getting signal directly from the ecu already.
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Wait wait wait. If thats the case the tach should be getting signal directly from the ecu already.
Crazy ****... it's getting the tach signal from the igniter module...

Here is the cutout from the Factory wiring diagram for the car:

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Igniter:


You can clearly see, that the tach signal comes from the igniter...
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By B/W wire you mean the Nr. 5 B/W from your picture at the Toyota COPs thread?

That wire is not existent on that Euro past '93 MX-5 1.6...
See here:



So I think I will make a new wire to either the igniter or directly to the tach.
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Crazy ****... it's getting the tach signal from the igniter module...

Here is the cutout from the Factory wiring diagram for the car:

Instruments:


Igniter:


You can clearly see, that the tach signal comes from the igniter...
Is it the B/W wire at place 3 in the first picture? Can you unplug your gauge cluster and find the b/w wire there and then check continuity to the b/w wire on the ignitor?
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Is it the B/W wire at place 3 in the first picture? Can you unplug your gauge cluster and find the b/w wire there and then check continuity to the b/w wire on the ignitor?
No B/W wire at the igniter connector:



The Y/L is going from the igniter to the dash/diagnostic connector.
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Is that not a b/w wire that I circled in red?
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looks like it. his diagram says it should be blue, but that doesn't look like a blue wire and i almost make out a white stripe right where it's going into the connector.


what is the blue wire going to the kraffstoff pumpen relay supposed to be?
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**** it.. this ought to be a "L" aka blue wire but it is indeed a B/W wire

I cleaned it a bit:


Now I have to see if there is a wire at 2I at the ECU because that would be the spot for the B/W wire at the 90-93 1,6 ECUs.
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so you should be able to run tachout through that white/black wire, then tie it into the yellow/blue somewhere ove rhte rainbow to send to dash.
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IIRC that black/white wire is the 12V.
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yeah, but it's a pull up from the ECU for the tach signal.
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**** it.. this ought to be a "L" aka blue wire but it is indeed a B/W wire

I cleaned it a bit:


Now I have to see if there is a wire at 2I at the ECU because that would be the spot for the B/W wire at the 90-93 1,6 ECUs.
Also just see if you can check continuity between that pin on the plug and the b/w pin at either the ECU or gauge cluster to see if it is the correct one.
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