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Old 02-25-2013, 12:49 AM   #1
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To keep it short and simple, I pieced together a turbo kit consisting of:
Evo 3 gt turbo
No Name intercooler and charge piping
Cast iron mani, Downpipe, 2 1/2 exhaust.
Tial bov and external wastegate
Rc 440cc injectors
No oil lines
No vacuum lines

My motor is a 1.6. I was going to just going to bolt the turbo kit on after getting megasquirt ecu and fuel pump but my motor started knocking today so I want to do a full build. I'm pulling the motor tomorrow. My budget for the motor build is around 2000, having said that, I want to do everything right with quality parts so if I need to take my time and save I will. I've been researching and I haven't found anything on piston rings. Does anyone have a build list they would be willing to share? I've found simple build lists but I am searching for something as detailed as head gasket, timing belt, oil pump, gaskets, etc. thanks in advance.
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I want to do everything right with quality parts so if I need to take my time and save I will.
For the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, build a 1.8 and not your 1.6.

Also start reading through the 'build threads' section, lots of good motor building info there.
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Let's count the contridictions:


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  1. Evo 3 gt turbo
  2. No Name intercooler
  3. Cast iron mani
  4. 2 1/2 exhaust
  5. Rc 440cc injectors
  6. No oil lines
  7. No vacuum lines
  8. My motor is a 1.6.
  9. ...building my 1.6

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I was going to just going to bolt the turbo kit on after getting megasquirt ecu and fuel pump but my motor started knocking today so I want to do a full build
I would also like to discuss this. Are you saying your stock motor just randomly started knocking? or that you installed your turbo setup quoted above and you blew your motor/turbo?
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My stock motor started knocking, I was going to order ecu and fuel pump and boost the stock motor til it blew but now since its already gonna need a rebuild I am wanting to do a complete overhaul with beefed up internals for a reliable low boost daily.(5 lbs)
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how did you blow a stock motor?
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Running the engine with dangerously low oil while murderously driving it? Just a FYI. $2000 for a built engine assuming your doing rods, pistons, oil pump gears, head and main studs, gasket set, bearings, timing belt water pump. Don't forget carb clean shop rags assembly lube, 2 oil changes, RTV, locktite and plenty of other things I'm forgetting. Lastly machining which is expensive in itself. OP, you haven't said if your assembling the engine or your paying someone to. If you had all that gear and and assembled it yourself i would look around 2300$ minimum.

For 5 lbs of boost?? throw another engine in there and profit. I just rebuilt my 1.6 and it cost me 400$ doing the labor myself. Im pretty sure you can find a used 1.6 for half that with a decent compression check.
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Our motors don't last forever, I drove it hard and it finally gave up. I came here for help because I've viewed many threads from this forum as a guest, I finally decided to join and I honestly am not happy with the way people like you treat newcomers. I understand my question may be elementary to you, so if you don't want to answer it or point me in the right direction than fine, but why ask questions like how did I blow the stock motor.
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Get a 1.8 with a 99/00 or VVT head, it's not the 200cc increase the 1.6 cylinder head has got to be one the worst flowing DOHC heads ever designed I even wonder why they bothered with 16 valves.

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If you want 200whp, place 1 stock 1.8L motor into your car. Anything else is overkill for a non-tracked vehicle.

We ask because you have to **** up pretty badly to blow these motors at stock power. Unless yours was approaching 500k miles, you probably did something wrong. And a built motor won't help that.
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Yeah really what did you do BP's don't just blow up.
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Our motors don't last forever, I drove it hard and it finally gave up. I came here for help because I've viewed many threads from this forum as a guest, I finally decided to join and I honestly am not happy with the way people like you treat newcomers. I understand my question may be elementary to you, so if you don't want to answer it or point me in the right direction than fine, but why ask questions like how did I blow the stock motor.
Spend $2000 to rebuild a motor for 5lbs of boost? You so silly.
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why ask questions like how did I blow the stock motor.
Because our motors don't just blow up for no reason. We're trying to figure out what you're doing wrong.

In other words, we're answering the question you SHOULD be asking, not the one you are asking.
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