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Renown Performance 11-03-2011 03:20 PM

YAY! you the man!
your a man right. lol

redturbomiata 11-03-2011 03:52 PM

I wonder what you can do with a 90-93, seein as how it doesn't have egr.

shuiend 11-03-2011 04:33 PM

I am almost certain that is my old 94 IM that I just sent them. I can not wait to see what type of numbers it makes.

Renown Performance 11-03-2011 05:12 PM

That it is! Very excited how it turned out personally!

-Sam

Doppelgänger 11-04-2011 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Renown Performance (Post 791624)
YAY! you the man!
your a man right. lol

Depends on the day...

Renown Performance 11-04-2011 05:00 PM

LOL. ooooh Fridays!

Faeflora 11-07-2011 10:41 PM

Y8s FYI I have a 99-00 intake that is completely gutted.

Faeflora 11-07-2011 10:41 PM

BTW Renown, please measure volume before and after port/gut.

I gained about .7 or something liters after gut

y8s 11-08-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 793200)
Y8s FYI I have a 99-00 intake that is completely gutted.

Yeah I'm still unconvinced that it's a worthwhile mod but then I haven't seen apples-apples dyno plots comparing a stock 99, 01, gutted 99, and Keith's dual runner style 99, and an 01 with the VTCS removed.

But I'd like to.

Oh Reeeeeknownnnnnn?

Faeflora 11-08-2011 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 793340)
Yeah I'm still unconvinced that it's a worthwhile mod but then I haven't seen apples-apples dyno plots comparing a stock 99, 01, gutted 99, and Keith's dual runner style 99, and an 01 with the VTCS removed.

But I'd like to.

Oh Reeeeeknownnnnnn?

Hey now, two dyno days ago, I demonstrated a lovely flat HP line holding to redline. Proof of gut airflow joy. And that was with a big ass boost sag too.

Braineack 11-08-2011 12:33 PM

what? if anything that proved your setup sucked big time.

Faeflora 11-08-2011 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 793410)
what? if anything that proved your setup sucked big time.

Sigh... maybe you're right. But I will dyno again next week and report here. Boost is holding steady to redline now so results should be useful.

Braineack 11-08-2011 12:59 PM

cuase if anything, the better flowing IM will keep the TQ flatter longer, thus the HP peaking later.

y8s 11-08-2011 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 793403)
Hey now, two dyno days ago, I demonstrated a lovely flat HP line holding to redline. Proof of gut airflow joy. And that was with a big ass boost sag too.

that's fine
now put a stock manifold on yoru car with exactly the same setup and do it again.

Renown Performance 11-08-2011 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 793201)
BTW Renown, please measure volume before and after port/gut.

I gained about .7 or something liters after gut

Yea the Extra volume will be measured we just wanted to get this first one opened up to show you guys what whats up. LOL

I am working with Ben at DIY Autotune about testing the different Manifolds for us. We hope to have dyno results soon. Its nice to keep things unbiased.

One thing we would like to make clear is that we are trying out a few different porting Theory's on the manifold, one may work better then the other. However we have an awesome Porting team that have mad porting skills yo! LOL. In all honesty though our team has years of experiences and will be applying what they know and and have seen work in past projects.

oreo 11-08-2011 07:22 PM

2 Attachment(s)
I did this exact porting on my manifold, used in conjunction with a PD supercharger running at ~20psi. Opening the manifold valve, results in a boost drop of 2psi @ 7100rpm, indicating this mod improves flow. (it also increases boost at 2500rpm, so I am controlling the valve with a MS)

In turbo applications, I understand you are also looking for additional volume, so you probably want to remove as much material as possible.

Before:
Attachment 186581
After:
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triple88a 11-08-2011 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by oreo (Post 793549)
indicating this mod improves flow.

Any noticeable difference in power?

Faeflora 11-09-2011 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 793650)
Any noticeable difference in power?

More flow = more air which + fuel = more power

nitrodann 11-09-2011 02:10 AM

Same setup and less boost at the plenum= more flow, more flow = more power.

What do you know, someone agrees with Fae. Just kidding mate.

Dann

oreo 11-09-2011 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 793680)
More flow = more air which + fuel = more power

Yes, with a turbo, you should have constant boost, so the engine will be flowing more air, which means more power.

With a positive displacement supercharger, it's a little different. The supercharger will pump almost the same amount of air with 2 psi reduction in backpressure (boost). Lowering the boost, by reducing the engine restriction, will reduce the HP required to turn the supercharger, and allow the supercharger to pump a tiny bit more air.

I'm going to the dyno later this week, and intend on doing a run, with the butterflies in reversed position (open at low rpm, and closed at high rpm), to see what the HP difference is. I would expect there to be a larger difference with a turbo.


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