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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Default What Size Exhaust Tubing for how much boost? (1.8)

I'm not sure if I can't find it our theres not sticky post?

Is there like a common knowledge for a certain amount of boost/hp for a certain size exhaust. Like Oh a slapon greddy kit is fine with 2.5".

A begi pushing doubled that HP needs 3".. etc..
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3" or greater
Old Dec 21, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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3" with large free flow muffler- non turbo.

3" with large free flow muffler- low boost turbo/super charger 5-10lbs

3" with large free flow muffler- higher boost levels 12-xxlbs

These are rules to live by.

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With a turbo do not go less than 3" from the turbo straight to the back of the car if at all possible. Anything less is a compromise in spool and power.
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Just go 8"

Can't go wrong with 8"
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https://www.miataturbo.net/dynos-tim...exhaust-64145/
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Miater, i had to fix your flawed post.
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lololol
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Originally Posted by 18psi
Just go 8"

Can't go wrong with 8"
Does Fae really believe your 3" is 8"?
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bullshit.


my BEGI 2.25" to 2.5" DP, to 2.25" cat, to 2.25" borla exhaust

to the same Begi 2.25" to 2.5" DP, 3" cat, and 3" catback:



same dyno. same boost*.



*was getting creep, so i lifted.
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Oh now you've gone and done it: Brain will school you
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ah, to be fair he does say he's running less boost.
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I know I'm in the minority here but does the exhaust size recommendation stay the same for supercharger applications as well or is there something different? Thanks.
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bigger is always better.

just sound like absolute **** on a SC.
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The only reason to not do a 3" exhaust on a turbo car is because you can't afford it AND you're too lazy to build one yourself.

N/A cars should get 2.25" straight-through systems.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
bullshit.
Lol, don't hate at me bro! Its not my data and its the only comparison I could quickly find.

Your results are obviously better. I believe Curly has something similar going from his Frankenstein exhaust to a 3" ARTech? Couldn't find it quickly.

Originally Posted by comradefks
I know I'm in the minority here but does the exhaust size recommendation stay the same for supercharger applications as well or is there something different? Thanks.
Ironically, I'm using Cordus old catted 2.5" FM turbo exhaust on my NB with the Rotrex and an BP6D exhaust manifold and factory downpipe. It's less than ideal, but it works for now. I will eventually be replacing manifold with a RB unit and the muffler with a 2.5" Magnaflow 5x11x22 because the ancient FM muffler has definitely seen better days. It's actually significantly quieter than expected, but it rasps on throttle stomps.
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Originally Posted by comradefks
I know I'm in the minority here but does the exhaust size recommendation stay the same for supercharger applications as well or is there something different? Thanks.
Turbo cars are much more sensitive to the exhaust size because the turbine acts as a backpressure multiplier.

The considerations for a SC car are different and more like doing the exhaust for an NA car (taking into consideration some additional flow). Things like sizing the pipe diameter and length to promote scavenging become important. Bottom line, on an SC car run a good header and an exhaust system matched to the header. That will likely be smaller than a 3".
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Originally Posted by hornetball
Turbo cars are much more sensitive to the exhaust size because the turbine acts as a backpressure multiplier.

The considerations for a SC car are different and more like doing the exhaust for an NA car (taking into consideration some additional flow). Things like sizing the pipe diameter and length to promote scavenging become important. Bottom line, on an SC car run a good header and an exhaust system matched to the header. That will likely be smaller than a 3".
^^ This. Everything I've read backs this up. The only person with an SC setup that I've seen that is running anything bigger is TrackDayHooky. At one point he was running one of the discontinued 949Racing 2.75" exhausts on a 400+HP C38 Rotrex build. No clue what that car has on it now.

Ok, back to the trubo stuff. Who has more apples to apples comparison data for exhaust upgrades?
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curly posted a dyno log thing not too long ago.
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For turbo exhaust you want a Choad

Short as possible and wide as possible.

My 4" isnt that loud. Very deep though. ***** deep



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