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Old 07-07-2008, 03:10 PM   #81
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FM, if you are going to do this, my suggestion is to REALLY offer this as a kit.
We'll do our best. Here's what we already offer.
Subframe - check
trans mounts - check
diff - like the engine, it will have to be sourced elsewhere.
diff mounts - check
driveshaft - check
half shafts - check
cooling - let me learn more about what's needed here, although there will probably be some cross-pollination with the available Miata parts
fueling - same answer as cooling, we have "big fuel" parts available for Miatas making lots of power
headers - as discussed earlier.

I suspect the shipping costs would make a trade-in program unworkable, and we're not really looking to encourage people to pull their FM IIs
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Now how about body wiring connected to the PCM wiring. Also for the NA's looking to switch to NB clusters so we can still have a working speedo that is clean.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:18 PM   #83
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Complete solutions don't magically appear out of thin air! This is why I didn't actually want to announce the availability of the parts until we had our own car up and running, but not everyone here agreed with me. Give us enough time to finish the installation on our car, then we'll have a better idea of what will be required - although there will still be some assembly required.

Does the body harness have to mate to the PCM wiring at all? I don't think so. Swapping an NB cluster in is a bit more of a pain than you think, even the mounting holes are in different locations. I don't have an easy answer for that one yet.
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That is my largest setback. I've run and built harnesses that are standalone, but found the best wiring harness came from http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Custo...spagenameZWD1V

I will more then likely be using this kit again.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:56 AM   #85
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Custom limited run headers are pricey ($800+).

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what you need is something like this:
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:52 AM   #86
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I've got the headers coming. Driver's side of them needs the 1st runner dimpled a bit for the steering column.

Cooling and fueling are trivial. For the v8roadster kit you run an LS2 water pump and accessories on the motor to give more clearance up front. You can run the Miata rad or standard upgrade then 3 gates hoses to mate the pump to the rad.

Fueling is easy at least in the NB. Walbro pump, 6 AN line from tank source to Corvette FPR/filter combo. Use the stock fuel source line as the fuel return line from the filter to the pump assembly. Then the push-on fittings that Npartist has on his site for attaching the lines to the FPR/fuel rail.

The hardest part of the swap for the v8roadster kit is the minor fab if you don't have fab skills. Welding the front diff mounts and cutting the firewall.

I haven't done the wiring yet but the NB wiring is apparently straight forward.

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The Miata motor should come out of our car this week. Then we'll start making some progress!
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Better make it quick!

A Z28 has been sacrificed to the Miata Gods

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Been watching the conversion http://www.flyinmiata.com/projects/LS1/index.php

Good job!
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Well, our Open House track day is this Friday. And we're having discussions not about IF the car will be on the track, but the logistics of getting it there. It's currently self-propelled, and as soon as we fix a little wiring problem on the MAF it'll be basically finished. I cannot wait to drive this thing.

Final weights: the car gained less than 200 lbs, 1/3 of which was on the rear axle. So the final balance is actually pretty good - about 52.6% front bias. By comparison, when the car had a T3/T4 turbo, it weighed almost exactly the same with 51.9% front weight.
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I hate having my turbo miata obsoleted.
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Final weights: the car gained less than 200 lbs, 1/3 of which was on the rear axle. So the final balance is actually pretty good - about 52.6% front bias.
"pretty good"? That's completely unacceptable. I expect more from FM. Stop rushing and do it right.

I will never buy one of these kits.

On a completely unrelated note, anyone want a complete parallel twinturbo for their 1.8 with an AEM EMS? I'll include the engine and trans. How's bout a ~45k mile 3.90 torsen?

No I do not have a desk full of prototype LS series valvetrain components at work.
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If I could sell all my turbo stuff and come up with the money for this.... I would. Right now my LSX dreams are quashed by fundage issues!
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The LS1 is pretty price-competitive to a fully built Miata engine with a commercially-available turbo system on it, but the problem is that there's no super-cheap way to stuff the LSx engine in the car. So the turbo cars still win on minimum price, especially if you're willing to do your own design and fab work. And you can start off with a low boost setup and work your way up, instead of dropping a big chunk of cash right off the start. For those of us who have to work for a living, that's a pretty big deal.

But man, I want one of these now.

TurboTim, if you need help cleaning your desk, I'm willing to help
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My firewall is finally welded but I'm motorless. Hopefully this weekend I'll pick it up and be be able to finish up the wiring and have mine running in 2 weeks.

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hey frank, sorry i couldn't help you with it. glad you got it done.
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hey frank, sorry i couldn't help you with it. glad you got it done.
No biggie. I might hit you up to give me a hand putting the dash back in, but that's still a little while away.

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Keith didn't update here, but they've got vid up on their site:

http://flyinmiata.com/projects/LS1/i...p?start=latest

Pretty competitive for something thrown together. I wish I had the time to throw mine together that fast. I should finish the wiring this week, get the motor in next week and maybe fired up, then hopefully on the road in 3 weeks.

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"Thrown together" doesn't do justice to the work done on the car. The work was done quickly, but you can't tell from the final result. Jon, our main mechanic, is an artist.

Turnkey prices are coming soon.
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we require smoky burnout pics.....
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