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Old 01-19-2012, 04:15 PM   #21
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And everything has a webcam now.
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I personally hate love the netbook form factor. Have you used netbooks at length at all, Viper?
Agreed. About the only problem with the class as a whole is a tendency on the part of the designers to undersize the right shift key, or place it in in ackward location (eg: to the right of the up-arrow key.) The better keyboards I have seen provide a full-sized right shift key, and drop the arrow keys down a bit to fit below it.
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Agreed. About the only problem with the class as a whole is a tendency on the part of the designers to undersize the right shift key, or place it in in ackward location (eg: to the right of the up-arrow key.) The better keyboards I have seen provide a full-sized right shift key, and drop the arrow keys down a bit to fit below it.
Or their absolute hatred for placement of the ]} key, or their hatred of the \| key, or even the [{ key...And let's not get into delete and backspace....Or ~`...

Actually, if the keys that Joe outlined and the above keys aren't well-placed, a keyboard is unusable for me :(. I've never used a netbook that had good placement of the keys for my uses. Plus I've never used a netbook keyboard that I've liked, and the ridiculously low resolution and size screens drove me batty (In certain programs, it made me wish for the old 80 line terminals again over that...)

But it boils down to "Have you used it before?" I guess. The netbook form factor is not for everyone - but for some people, it's amazing.
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:22 AM   #24
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I personally hate the netbook form factor. Have you used netbooks at length at all, Viper?

If you have and have no issue, it's definitely a decent deal for the cash. But I detest the netbook layout personally - but that's just a personal bias.
Yes I have. I've used my friend's Acer netbook for tuning his turbo E30.
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Agreed. About the only problem with the class as a whole is a tendency on the part of the designers to undersize the right shift key, or place it in in ackward location (eg: to the right of the up-arrow key.) The better keyboards I have seen provide a full-sized right shift key, and drop the arrow keys down a bit to fit below it.
That should not be a problem.
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Or their absolute hatred for placement of the ]} key, or their hatred of the \| key, or even the [{ key...And let's not get into delete and backspace....Or ~`...

Actually, if the keys that Joe outlined and the above keys aren't well-placed, a keyboard is unusable for me :(. I've never used a netbook that had good placement of the keys for my uses. Plus I've never used a netbook keyboard that I've liked, and the ridiculously low resolution and size screens drove me batty (In certain programs, it made me wish for the old 80 line terminals again over that...)

But it boils down to "Have you used it before?" I guess. The netbook form factor is not for everyone - but for some people, it's amazing.
I can't make it any clearer that this will NOT be used for work or extended periods of time. Internet (MT, fapping) and tuning. That's about it.
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:25 AM   #25
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Anymore comments/remarks about this? I'll probably buy it in the morning if I read some good things.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Inspiro...68660.m2000037
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If you've used one before bro and have no issues, go for it!
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:11 PM   #27
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Buying now. Speak now or forever hold your piece (lol)

Some one please comment on the specs.
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Is the N450 proc significantly faster than the N270? I found the N270 to be pretty sluggish in my Lenovo S10 netbook. 5+ tabs on a browser gets irritating.
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Is the N450 proc significantly faster than the N270? I found the N270 to be pretty sluggish in my Lenovo S10 netbook. 5+ tabs on a browser gets irritating.
I have no idea what those are. I'm asking you guys the questions, not the other way around.

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Oh, and any intensive Flash stuff, even decent quality Youtube vids, kills it.
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Survey says the difference isn't dramatic.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=132498

Honestly, I was unsatisfied with my netbook, even for web browsing. There's just too much embedded flash, large images, etc. It's little annoyances, like sluggish response to scrolling a web page, but it wears on you over time.
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Is the N450 proc significantly faster than the N270? I found the N270 to be pretty sluggish in my Lenovo S10 netbook.
Passmark says:

U1400: 275 (my old, "High-end" Core Solo laptop)
N270: 304
N450: 318
N550: 568
N570: 633
E350: 728 (AMD's higher-end netbook chip)
U9400: 965 (Intel Core2Duo found in low-end Dell E4200)
U9600: 1129 (Intel Core2Duo found in high-end Dell E4200)

So not a massive difference between the N2xx and N4xx processors. Pretty big leap to the N5xx series.

Avoid the Z-series Atoms. They are *****.

The C-50/60 AMD chips are between the N450 and N550 Atoms. Avoid the C-30, it is also *****.

However, what blew me away when I first started looking at these number a year ago was the fact that even the lowly N270 is measurably faster than the CPU in my previous laptop, and while that machine wasn't exactly a barn-burner, it was no slouch.
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I actually run an E-350 in my home server/media player/etc., so I can personally vouch for it.

The n2xx atoms were dogs at best.
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Post specs plz. Whenever I click on an egay link it isn't around anymore.
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Okay, I emailed that guy from the listing and he's waiting for more.

But, I found this:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Inspiro...ht_2635wt_1010

Please please please review this. Looks to be the same, but with a few extras and a larger hard drive.

Not too concerned with the Windows 7 starter, I plan on trying out Ubuntu soon.
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1 gig of ram is weaksauce, I'm trying to find what its upgradeable to.
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1 gig of ram is weaksauce, I'm trying to find what its upgradeable to.
Not really worried about that. MS and internet.
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You're not going to enjoy Flash videos much with those specs.
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You're not going to enjoy Flash videos much with those specs.
That might be irrelevant. Remember, this is going to be a tuning laptop for now. I have 2 other computers to use for high speed interneting and I will have an uber desktop built later this year.

I just need to know if this (the one I listed) is going to be good for MS tuning on the go interneting.
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That would be more than adequate for both tuning and sitting-on-the-couch web surfing.

Folks don't seem to recognize just how little computing power it takes to tune a Megasquirt. My old tuning machine was a Fujitsu Stylistic 3400, which had a 400 Mhz Pentium 3 and 128 megabytes of RAM.
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