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Old 03-14-2012, 11:02 PM   #921
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:24 PM   #923
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Try my Honda while you're on there
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I'm checking out the Hondas right now for this Sunday's race!
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I'm checking out the Hondas right now for this Sunday's race!
Add 225mm spec tire width.
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My 99 civic with a b16 turned out to be a A563 based off H1's rules: http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/Honda-Challenge.pdf

Which track though, Infineon?
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So the car list for Honda Challenge H1 thus far is:


91' CRX
94' Civic
95' Del Sol
97' Civic
99' Civic
00' Prelude
01' Integra
02' RSX
03' S2000
06' Civic
10' TSX
12' Civic

The tunes have ranged from A563-A580 1900-2600lbs 230-330hp, I've done most of these cars and ran them on Infineon Long. They all turned a 1:43-1:44 untuned. I did put a 225mm limit so the S2000 is a hand-full, lol.

Since "hybrids" are allowed, I can put up a D-series and B-series tune for the older cars. Different weight and power basically.

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All my experiments are comin out around 54X, what am I missing? Horsepower cap at 225?
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Tire width capped at 225. All the cars have 260+hp.
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So where do we get the build specs?
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I'll put them up tonight, still working out a few kinks. It's not done 100% to the HC rules, but if they were some of the cars wouldn't be competitive.

Infineon isn't the definite track either.
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We should incorporate a pit stop, that would be fun and interesting.
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//Honda Challenge H1 Series


//Infineon Raceway Long Course


//Sunday March 18th 9:00PM EST.



This week we will be doing a Honda Challenge series. I've done the tunes based off the rules as best as I could. I had to go past a few rules to keep a few cars more competitive, though. I turned all of them on Infineon within a second of each other, un-tuned. The cars have their advantages and disadvantages and should make for an interesting race.

We will be doing our standard 10 lap qualifying, ghosted cars, lobby set up by best time. Grid order will be slowest qualifying times in the front, fastest qualifying times in the back, so reverse of how the lobby will be displayed after the 10-lap qualifier.

This will be a 21 lap race, rolling start. The first lap will be the pace lap and to get in grid order. We will be doing a MANDATORY pit between laps 9-12. If you don't pit you will be disqualified!!

This should be a fun race and I think we should do Honda Challenge vs American Iron sometime soon .

Car List:

91' CRX
94' Civic
95' Del Sol
97' Civic
99' Civic
00' Prelude
01' Integra
02' RSX
03' S2000
06' Civic
10' TSX
12' Civic


Parts List:

1991 CR-X SiR

A574
279 HP
190 LB-FT
1900 LBS
56%
1.7L


Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Street camshaft (D-series low on power)
Sport valves
Street displacement
Sport pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Stock driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/50/14 front & rear tire width
Any wheel while staying over #1900LBS
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No conversion



1994 Honda Civic 1.5 VTi

A582
297 HP
208 LB-FT
2322 LBS
60%
2.0L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Stock displacement
Stock pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Stock weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Stock driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/50/14 front & rear tire width
Any wheel while staying over #2300LBS
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

I4 - Integra R '02 Engine Swap



1995 CR-X Del Sol SiR

A567
297 HP
208 LB-FT
2188 LBS
56%
2.0L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Stock displacement
Stock pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Race driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/50/14 front & rear tire width
Any wheel
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

I4 - Integra R '02 Engine Swap



1997 Civic Type R

A573
263 HP
170 LB-FT
2107 LBS
56%
1.6 L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Stock displacement
Stock pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Sport driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/50/15 front & rear tire width
Any wheel
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion



1999 Civic Si Coupe

A570
283 HP
189 LB-FT
2166 LBS
56%
1.7L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Race ignition
Race exhaust
Street camshaft
Sport valves
Street displacement
Sport pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Race driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/50/15 front & rear tire width
Any wheel while staying over #2300LBS
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Coversion



2000 Prelude SiR

A566
312 HP
255 LB-FT
2554 LBS
58%
2.2L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Street displacement
Sport pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Sport weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Race driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/45/16 front & rear tire width
Any wheel
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion



2001 Integra Type-R

A578
276 HP
184 LB-FT
2300 LBS
56%
1.8L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Stockdisplacement
Stock pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Stock driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/50/15 front & rear tire width
Any wheel
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion



2002 RSX Type-S

A570
284 HP
202 LB-FT
2405 LBS
55%
2.1L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Sport displacement
Sport pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Stock driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/45/16 front & rear tire width
Any wheel while over #2400 LBS
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion



2003 S2000

A576
330 HP
215 LB-FT
2578 LBS
50%
2.1 L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Street displacement
Sport pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Sport weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Race driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/45/16 front
245/45/16 rear
Any wheel while over #2575 LBS
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion



2006 Civic Si Coupe

A576
287 HP
202 LB-FT
2413 LBS
55%
2.0L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Stock displacement
Stock pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Race driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/45/17 front & rear tire width
Any wheel
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion



2010 TSX V6

A564
351 HP
318 LB-FT
2992 LBS
56%
3.5L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Sport ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Street displacement
Stock pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Race driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
Stock front & rear tire width
Any wheel
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion



2012 Civic Si Coupe

A569
266 HP
225 LB-FT
2377 LBS
56%
2.4L

Engine and Power:
Race air filter
Stock intake manifold and throttle body
Sport fuel system
Stock ignition
Race exhaust
Stock camshaft
Sport valves
Street displacement
Stock pistons and compression
Sport oil and cooling
Race flywheel

Platform and Handling:
Race brakes
Race springs and dampers
Race FARB
Race RARB
Race chassis reinforcement and roll cage
Race weight reduction

Drivetrain:
Race clutch
Street transmission
Stock driveline
Race differential

Tires and Wheels:
Race tire compound
225/45/17 front & rear tire width
Any wheel
Stock wheel size

Aero and Appearance:
Forza Race front bumper
Forza Race rear wing

No Conversion
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:57 PM   #934
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Cool. I have been fiddling with these, drinkin some green beer. There are 2 or 3 that run faster than the rest for me. Seems like torque and front weight % is playing a big part in my times.

Thanks for putting all the time into this Flier!
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If we don't have a decent turn out tomorrow, we can always do it next weekend too.

I'm digging the HC vs AI though.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:28 PM   #936
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Push to monday? I have tuesdays off and I'm pulling an allnighter tonight with ALMS @ Sebring and F1 early in the morning. Or next weekend, whatever.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:14 PM   #937
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I'm in...but if you guys are going to cancel let me know now so I can go to a bar, now. If you want AI to be competitive against these cars you need to cut power way down on the Hondas.
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im in for tonight, afterward i need a couple people to help me test a series of cars for wednesday.
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I'm in. Are we using street or race transmissions on these? In the builds they're listed as "sport"
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Yeah, that kind of sucks, but if it's too far spaced for you, try a different car. I know the '02 TSX has a fairly close ratio box.

I'm out for tonight, just got called in to work.
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