So clean it once per month... my miners barely have any dust yet they have been running for 4 months straight.

The new circuit is working reasonably well.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d376a48ce9.png

That's over copper.

To update the image above with the results of the build

Phaenteks Enthoo Pro M SE
ASRock Z370 Taichi
GSkill DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 14-14-14-34 CAS Latency 14
Corsair Hydro H115i PRO RGB 280mm (push-pull)
Intel Core i7-8700K @5Ghz on all cores
WD Black NVMe M.2 2280 250GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 3D NAND
Intel SSD 520 256GB (image editing)
Crucial BX100 500GB (video editing)
Zotac GeFroce 1070
Thermaltake Smart Pro RGB 750W 80+ Bronze


I decided not to sync colors and just let all parts work at random because my son loves the light show.

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Neat build. Needs some more lighting to fill out the case.

Recent statement from NVIDIA CEO looks like the next gen cards may not be out until next year.

I have a nice poweredge T410 that's 8 years old that my office is dumping. I'm going to use it for a home server. It's got two Xeon E5620s and 24gb of ram and 4x500gb drives and 2x250gb drives.

I did dump windows server 2008R2 for Win 10 pro just for modern useability and patchyness.

I did grab a xeon processor out of a different server because I thought this had only one, but now I don't need it so it's just sitting around on its heat sink. (see below)

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So I went ahead and de-lided 8700K as under very heavy load and even with 280mm radiator temps were getting quite high. After delid and application of liquid metal to the silicone the temps dropped by 20*C, which is very significant and allowed me to back off on the voltage for overclock.

In the spirit of cooling upgrades with Maita - better cooling leads to better overall performance.

The real trick (after many tries) ended up being NOT resealing the IHS to the CPU. Doing so was causing it to sit every so slightly unevenly on the die. Letting IHS float on top of the CPU under the socket retainer has proven to be the right solution.



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Hmm i thought there was very thin silicone that worked well for sealing things, no?

Also tape was only there until you get the liquid metal right? Did you remove the tape after?

Yes, removed the tape after applying liquid metal.

You can use either RTV type sealant (red or back) or some recommend using super glue. Here are the issues:

Super Glue:
- Hard to ensure that IHS is pressed flush against silicone and not tilting on one side. Even with RockIt Cool 88 sealing tool - it would end up slightly crooked since processor PCB is not actually flat, it is uneven.

Gasket maker
- needs to have at least some thickness to it in order to work well, which may raise the IHS from, but allows the IHS to adjust under pressure. Very messy.

I just decided that since this is in a workstation and not mobile application - sealing IHS to CPU is not really critical for me, but does ensure the best, even, flat contact.

I'd imagine what you want to do is put the PCB in the motherboard, put silicone or whatever you're using, then put the IHS and clamp it down and install the cooler, and let it dry under full pressure. That wouldnt work? As much as I want to do this to my 8700k, i am not overclocking and my temps are <55c at 100% load so the only thing that would do is void the warranty.

That would be hard to do right in the motherboard tray as the way the latch is designed - the IHS WILL shift. So the silicone will end up curing with the IHS being in whatever position it ends up after you close the top and latch the side bar used to secure the processor. Honestly though, 8700K is the easiest overclock I've done since original Intel Celeron and AMD Athlon chips. Bump up voltage a tad and then set clock. No fuss. My ambient room temps are 20-25*C so it idles at 35-40*c , but now with floating delid and 5Ghz on all cores my stress test went from 85*c down to 60*c and i was able to reduce voltage for overclock.

Some shots of my 4ish year old build with small upgrades here and there. Mostly used for gaming and remote IT stuff. These are about a year old and a few changes have been made mainly different monitor setup and a diy vertical gpu mount that I'm not sure if I'm happy with.

New laptop, because I felt like it :party:
Dell Latitude 5591 15"
i7 8850H Hex core
16GB DDR4, might go to 32GB because I can
512GB M.2 SSD
Nvidia GeForce MX130 2GB DDR5
W10 Pro

Still browsing for a USB-C type dock to cut down on wire clutter.

Man I love that desk.

I have that same case. Love it.
and my fiance has that same anime figure. No idea what character it is even. lol

Everything about this is amazing except just one monitor.

What sort of remote IT stuff?

Just got an email from Newegg regarding the 208x series graphics card being available next month.

Fantastic, this means a 1070 or 1080/Ti should continue the downward price trend so I can actually build a damn sim rig again soon.

Yeah, a friend of mine already preordered a 2080. I'll wait until i see % increase vs the older cards. The 1080 was only like 15 - 20% better than the 980ti.

So far i'm still happy with my old 980. Doing well with 1080p @ 144hz.

Not by much. the 2xxx cards are very pricey. 880 for a 2080 annd 12xx for the 2080ti. those are manufacturer prices soo expect resellers to add another 3-400 bucks on top of that.

The 2080ti fe and first batch of aib cards were all around $1200. Cheapest was $1150, most expensive was $1250 on amazon.

I have an FE and an evga preordered....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/q2...-=w784-h694-no

Still running two Fury X cards I bought at launch.

Cpu is a 1700 non-x @ 3.9ghz.

Single monitor poverty need not apply.

I run multiple monitors. But the other one just displays discord or whatever.

I do want VR to have some improvements. Higher resolution and better aspect ratio. This will require a GPU upgrade. I'll buy in then for sure.

I dont think the 20xx cards are going to have much of a performance improvement over the last gen. The ray tracing stuff is cool, and Im glad theyre working on it, but I doubt its going to get used much. I plan on waiting until RTX 22xx or so, then Im sure we will have some pretty wild ray tracing graphics with good framerates.

based on the initial stats about 50% with up to 100% improvement with the DLSS on.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...58020ed6c9.jpg

Yeah but wtf is DLSS?

Ill be interested to see apples to apples comparisons made with traditional anti aliasing across a larger range of games and benchmarks.

From how I understand it its a new way nvidia came up with only adding special effects to the things that are important.. aka up front.. stuff thats in the background doesnt need to be rendered to the highest quality so they can leave it at a lower frame rate or something.

I honestly don't think we will see a major performance improvement. Ray tracing may be important for future games, but unless you have to build a new right next month, there is no reason to replace 1070/1080 just yet. Old engines will not be rewritten to support ray tracing and it will take a while before new engines are utilizing it. Furthermore, we may find that just like with some other features built into chips in the past, they will either have a detrimental effect on FPS or cause other issues and will get disabled in engines that support it in theory.

This ^
Either way you should wait for the NDA to expire and look at real 3rd party benchmarks and comparisons before buying. Preordering an RTX card right now is means dropping a lot of money without any information on the product being available currently.
Personally I will likely sit this gen out unless they somehow worked wonders and have at least 60% performance increase from 10xx series because of the price increase. Raytracing seems like a meme right now. 2019 will be a much more interesting time with 7nm cards likely coming from both GPU companies and Intel joining in 2020.

All my same thoughts have already been said above. It seems cool, but I like my FPS. One thing I do see happening is the bitcoin game 2.0 happening if there's a way to make use of the new GPU in that sense.

But yea, I'm on the bandwagon of the 1080ti price going down so I can actually get my hands on one reasonably.

Pretty sure Ray tracing tech was on the latest Titan cards.

pro question: when do the cheap voltas become available for us cad nerds?

The new nvidia 2080's seem to interesting in so much as they have dropped the price of second hand 1080's drastically. I plan to get a 1080 with how cheap they seem to be now.

My specs are
Intel 6600k
16gb DDR 4 2400mhz ram
Be Quiet Dark Rock 3 Cooler
EVGA GTX 970
and my monitor is a Dell U3415W.

I originally bought the 970 as a stop gap so that I could at least run the monitor. I didn't want to shell out big money on a 980ti at the time. It does ok ish at 3440x1440 but most settings are on medium.

I love it when you do a simple upgrade and it just works properly with no drama.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1cb8e33853.png


No more having to strangle the sandbox VMs for memory. They can each now have 8GB plus a full processor core without affecting the host machine.

I picked up my 980ti Classy last year for about $400. I wont upgrade for a few years probably... I have three screens running 5760x1080 but I usually run "intensive" games on the main at 1920x1080... I rarely see under 100fps in games. i7 6800k (true i7 none of that integrated video garbage) and 32gb of ram (with 4 empty ram slots). I always build with maximum upgrade potential in mind. I will either pick up another 980ti (or two) years later or some other used card cheap as possible. If need be I'll OC the cpu later as well. My last computer lasted me 10 years (with four different sets of video cards, a cpu upgrade and eventually maxing the motherboards memory capacity).

Point is, its usually not worth buying cutting edge looking at it from a cost/performance point of view. If the last gen cards smoothly play the current games on max settings all you are doing by spending more is "fluffing" your FPS or future proofing a bit. /2¢

New work machine is waiting for me in the other room.

Xeon W-1245 8-core 3.7/4.5 GHz
NVIDIA Quadro P4000
512 GB SSD
32 GB RAM
Win 10 pro

Gonna have to get some bigger monitors to take advantage of this thing.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dd596b7013.jpg

PS anyone need some old cpus?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c211289630.png

Hmm that would do well in the file server Ive been needing to re-build :likecat:

Sure, unless you want to play at anything other than 1080p and 30fps....

Current gen cards are worth more when you resel them too, same concept applies to cars. Sometimes its cheaper or more beneficial to buy new than used.

A 1070 will match your 980ti pretty much everything the last time I looked. They are currently <$250 used...

I got the 980 ti classified new for that and used 1070s were about what new ones where. It runs everything now maxed out over 100fps. When it games come out that it can't run at a solid 60fps I'll upgrade simple as that. I get the best deal I can on a card at the time I need one.

you don't need current a current gen card to play games smoothly on max settings... you can usually get 2-3 years out of a good card. Then pick up another one in the $300 range and repeat. Sometimes you can get good enough deals to run double or triple sli for less money that perform about the same. This is less efficient (you'll need a real power supply) and is heavily dependant on the market.

980ti wouldn't benefit from being run in SLI.

At 1080p...

Right but other cards have in the past... really kinda a shame nothing supports it hardly. I ran sli on my last couple of upgrades, probably won't bother in the future unless something changes.

This is comical. The verge butchered this so bad, they took the video down... however, others had saved it already :D


They have taken down the video and are reporting anyone that has uploaded the video.

The folks that commented on it are still live though so you can watch the video there.

Work was throwing out some file servers. I grabbed one with a slightly better processor and thought I'd take this too but turned out the one I took was already doubled up with processors so... I have a spare and the rest of the machine went in the trash. well, except the hard drives.

So RTX2080 Founders performance is equivalent to GeForce 1080 Ti and is not worth the extra $$$ (GamersNexus conclusion).

See.. no. 1080ti cant do RTX.

I have nothing useful to add other than to say that I disapprove of the title change.

Gamer's Nexus review was pretty harsh, but with all the other big names reviews. It seems the RTX line (2080/2080ti at least) seem to be a great upgrade if you do higher resolution gaming.

Some of the RTX numbers posted were actually insane in other reviews once the resolution was bumped up. The RTX cards are very efficient with resolution scaling.

All in all, depending on the prices. IMO, once more 2nd hand companies start putting out their RTX cards, It might just be worth it to grab the RTX for the new tech.

My biggest worry at the moment is the bitcoin hype version 2 with the new cards. Really hope this doesn't happen.

And we have no way of bench marking RTX not to mention anything to benchmark it against. Except for maybe titan xP.

I agree, and it sucks. And I have feelings of doubt that whatever comes out in the next 6-12months with RTX features isn't going to cut it.

"Time will tell, sooner or later.... Time will tell" -Red Alert cinematic

As the guy who made the title change prior to the last title change, I approve of the last title change. :bowrofl:

TF2 FTW.

CTF

Lol, i actually did upgrade in the past specifically to play TF2. I think I always spend $300 or so on a new card, but don't buy them, new - always open box or slightly used in order to buy higher end than i could afford otherwise.

Ironically, so did I. Maybe 6-ish years ago, bought my first (and, to date, only) "gamer-class" video card. Radeon 7700. Can't remember what it cost, pretty sure it was well under $200.

Still works great today.

TL;DW

Apparently adding a water cooling solution to the RTX cards makes little difference in FPS. The RTX cards seem to be throttled with power limits.

Adding a water cooled solution really is just a cherry on top to keep it cool, possibly in the realm of longevity. Basically temp wise, If EK can make a good block that covers the GPU/VRAM/VRMs it'll be good in that aspect.

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