Yeah, when i look in bios, voltages seem to be fine.

Still, i feel like this computer shouldnt be lagging out and lack performance.

Its really been noticeable in Lightroom when it's taking a very long time for full size images to render completely. Much longer than i remember. and PS is getting laggy.

Cool thread.

I've got a micro-itx build, packing
GTX 980
16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM
i7 4790K
4 256gb Samsung EVO Pro's running 2x2 in raid 0 array.

I'm pretty happy with it, considering I can pick it up and move it around very easily, and with the corsair air 240 case it really stays cool for such a small form factor.

Mostly gaming and video/photo editing.

Poverty build:
G3258 overclocked to 4.4GHz
16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM
GTX770ti
bunch of cobbled together hard drives

runs all my shit, I think I put the entire thing together for $400 a few years ago.

So the computer runs stable at 12.15v when I'm just sitting here on the internet. very solid.

When I play Battlefront, i need to run at LOW settings in order to even hit 60 fps. as soon as the game starts the voltage sits at 12.02v, when the game runs and it gets bogged down I'm seeing it drop to 11.89v and it's wildly fluctuating the entire time im playing between 11.8 and 12.2v

think it has anything to do with how I had to run power to the GPU?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...baf804e375.png

this is two separte leads off the PSU, but I had to use those converter cables to hook it up.

here's my PSU specs:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0ae463ecac.png



really frustrating. I tried playing SC2 with Lars the other day and it was so bad and laggy i just had to quit.

the PSU wattage requirements is 650 for the R9 390. But I think 30A at 12v is not enough coupled with my CPU, which needs 125w.

I think the peak of my card is rated at 300w and if I need 125watt for my CPU, then 425w @ 12v = 37.5A

looks like other 750w PSUs supply 62A... think this is my issue?

but honestly, even on the internet right now it's running poorly. my text is delayed and taking a second or two to catch up with me... and webpages are noticeable slow.

:( :( help me.

That PSU has 2 12v rails?
Are you testing both?

oh i didnt notice that. probably not.

the PSU came with shit for connectors, i bet it have it all on one rail. I'll gotta dig up to documentation from my basement.

An easy way to test the PSU for faults is just to run down to bestbuy, pick up a suitable PSU, see if it has solves the issues. If it solves them, return it and hit up Newegg. If not, return and keep searching.


Just an off chance, be sure your power saving profile is on high performance. My computer lagged and couldn't play games for shit for a couple weeks before I realized I was on power saver mode.

i changed that last week. ill try running the same game back at 1080p and see how it reacts.

check this shit out:

https://goo.gl/photos/hHSbCU3c3ARJbcP86

My local microcenter has a "factory refurbished" PSU section that I hadn't previously known about - I recently upgraded from a Radeon 6850 to a Geforce 1070 and knew I needed the 8 pin pci-e connector, so I had planned on picking up a new PSU. I had hoped to find a Corsair AX 760 for under about $150. When I got there, their new-boxed PSUs were priced well above what I was expecting, with the 760s going for about $249 and the 860s going for $279. I did a 180 degree turn and low and behold the opposite side of the aisle was lined with brown cardboard "factory refurbished" boxes. Now I'm not one to jump at the concept of "factory refurbished" stuff because - well, you just never know sometimes...

What I do know is that the "factory refurbished" AX 860 that I picked up came with a 1 year MFRs warranty and cost a whopping $99.99 - when I saw that, I about had a bargain poop.

As far as I can tell, everything is brand new, and it runs my nVidia 1070 like a champ - I was planning on 760w because I really didn't expect I needed anything over about 650, but with an 80-plus platinum rating, It's still going to be way less expensive on electricity than the rock-solid silverstone I took out.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/4...ly_Refurbished

oh looks like they have one at my local one too for $110.

I swapped leads around so the 6-pin PCI-E connector on the card is coming from a completely unused gang of wires off the PSU and the 8-pin another. Hoping to help balance the loads a bit. Still not entirely sure that's my problem, but i dunno what else it can be.

I was playing SC2 with Lars over the weekend to test and i actually had to quit the game--as it progressed it became so choppy and impossible to run there was no point. He said his ran perfectly, so it's completely on my end. I need to play against AI to rule out bandwidth but im certain that's not the issue.

so there's something on my end that simple cant handle all the information. I was running 2160p at full low settings.

Your cat seemed to be freaked out by the concept of scrolling.

she has small brain.

Brain the size of a walnut, I'm sure. Then again, brain size correlates with cognitive ability in really odd and nonintuative ways. Neuroscience is weird.

That said, I question whether your graphics card is really to blame here. Shading polygons in 3d mode is all about GPU performance, but refreshing 2d video displays is mostly about the RAM / CPU / bus bottlenecks. IOW, what does Task Manager have to say about your memory and CPU resources while you're scrolling the page at 4k vs. 2k?

well, turns out when in 4K mode it's trying to create like really hi-res thumbnails of the images, so it's reading through very large files and trying to render a bunch on the screen. Once it renders them all scrolling is just as fast.

I went through the efforts of wiping out my AMD drivers and all related apps, and reinstalling, and my first go at video games is successful.

but I do notice times where my fans are running when they really shouldn't, like right here typing. My CPU is going bonkers:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5accde2ef3.png

Well, you're at 70% average utilization on a CPU which, to be frank, is a power slut built on a gargantuan 32nm process which Intel obsoleted in 2012. If the fan weren't whizzing, your 8 cores would be 8 little blobs of slag. That's one of the downsides of AMD processors in the modern era: Yesterday's fabrication technology, tomorrow!

Here's what my comparatively ancient first-gen i5 is doing while "idle" with 41 tabs open in Chrome and Pandora running in the background:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...633eb49c81.png

I've got nearly twice as many processes and threads running, and "100%" on your CPU is more than 2x the throughput as on mine, so your 70% would be 140% on mine.

You gotta find out what's dogging your CPU, and the "Process" tab in task manager will tell you this:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e86d24d869.png

Click the top of the CPU column, and those processes which are consuming the most CPU resources will sort to the top.


Your Ethernet utilization is a good clue. Something is sucking down ~ 27 Mb/s of data, and presumably spending some CPU time to process it.

In for results. Has Brain been compromised?

I've been Nvidia/Intel for ... forever, basically, mainly because of the lower power requirements.

I think someone is remotely mining bitcoin using your computer. It's the only logical explaination.

Yeah, something is wrong and it isn't an AMD issue.


When's your royalty check coming in Joe?

Although I hesitate to jump right to the bitcoin answer, the possibility that Brain's computer has been hijacked and is part of a botnet of some kind can't be discounted. And yes, while individual CPUs / GPUs are worthless as modern mining platforms, botnets consisting of thousands of them running high quality distributed-processing code is, in fact, a very viable solution. (To be fair, Bitcoin mining is CPU intensive but does not customarily involve massive amounts of network throughput.)

But it's equally likely that some local process has just gone totally rogue and needs to be killed and uninstalled.



As for the royalties, they pay me in locally-produced wine. It's an agreeable arrangement, as, IMO, Napa Valley continues to be highly underrated in the public perception.

I had shit open in background (my Lightroom application), and was downloading. I had just noticed the fans hadn't calmed down after playing a game, and when i looked the cpu was going bonkers just as you asked.

typically the cpu is at 1-3% when im just sitting there dicking around. but ill keep an eye on it. My win10 install is still pretty fresh and I havent downloaded and installed anything new in quite a while -- only games from steam.

walmarebytes and spybot and windows defender all say computer is clean.


fun fact: im going back to Napa Valley next summer.

Laptop for uni work:
15" Dell 3537
W7 Ultimate (W10 can suck my dick)
Intel i5 4200U @ 1.60GHz
16GB DDR3 ramz
Intel HD4400 graphics (lol)
250GB Samsung Evo SSD
2TB external drive for nudes cat pics/back ups

Runs Solidworks, Ansys, Matlab etc like fucking charm. I have no space or desire for my desktop in our apartment here and it has served me well for the past 3 years. Battery life is pretty good, even though it's plugged in 99% of the time.

Time to wipe counter strike :D

Not cool: Bitcoin mining malware found in ESEA server client | PCGamesN

:eggplant:

lol yes i know sir, it was a joke.

PC:
i5-3470
AMD R9 280X
2X4GB something
2TB seagate barracuda
610w seasonic PS
Win 8.1
Really need an ssd by now. Can clearly see its bottlenecking at the task manager.

Running GTA V, BF4, AC no problems on ultra

I want to say after wiping the video drivers, and reinstalling the catalysts, thing is running well again. Battlefront running Ultra settings again with decent frame-rate -- enough it seems perfectly smooth to me.

I kind of want this: Seagate built a whopping 60TB SSD that it aims to ship next year | PCWorld

nice. i wonder what sort of price tag.


I have noticed a few times my cpu core clock speed drops from 3.6Mhz to 1.7Mhz while gaming hard, i think it's overheating protection. that made me sad.

All the money.



And to think that Erat mocked me for calling your AMD processor an obsolete power-slut. :giggle:

In all seriousness, however, what sort of cooling solution do you have on there, and how old is it?

The former I ask because I've become a heat-pipe convert. My CPU is running a gigantic six-pipe cooler with a 120mm fan on it. That processor has never even thought about getting warm.

The latter because I have heard anecdotally about the thermal paste between the CPU housing and the heatsink degrading as it ages.

Do a 3m novac coolant experiment.

Hey, even i know that these damn AMD's need liquid to keep cool. The 8 core units are even worse.

Now, onto the next questions. Is it the stock heatsink & fan? Was it applied at the factory? Has it ever been removed and had the thermalpaste reapplied? Ambient temperature of the case?
I mean, if it is, just datalog it. Make sure there isn't some dumb fan curve that set.

Do a cpu stress test and report back.

Does it 'turbo' up to 3.6Mhz and do 1.7Mhz at idle?

Spec sheet says that base is 3.5, with turbo to 4.0.

Besides, if he's "gaming hard," the cores shouldn't be idling down. The bulldozer processors are known to have thermal problems, and that's the most likely scenario here.

Cooler master hyper 212 evo with artic silver 5.

I'll stress that bitch tonight. I was running turbo boost only over clocking to 3.6, it would normally run about 3750hz. I think the voltage got turned up though but I just went back to defaults and turned off boost.

It's still running much better once I fixed the gpu drivers.

thermal compounds do degrade over time. my gaming laptop ran like shit after 5 years, no amount of ram, hard drive clean up, windows reinstall, compressed air, etc could fix it, so i disassembled it and replaced all of the thermal conductive paste. it immediately resumed running in tip top shape again.

if anything when i game, i hear the PSU fan going insane, I always thought it was the CPU or GPU.

All i care is this:

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...33022218_o.jpg

So i setup my twitch account last night. Tomorrow i'll be streaming No Man's Sky (PC)

https://www.twitch.tv/triple88a

I have no need at all for this but I'm still tempted. This is a lot of power for the money.

https://jackson.craigslist.org/sys/5727070498.html

It is a lot of power for the money.

But it's not a lot of power overall. Those E5520 Xeons are ancient- they barely outperform my 8 year old i5. And the video card in it is a joke.

Buy that machine, and you're really just buying an old motherboard, case, power supply and RAM. I can get a modern version of all of those for not a lot more money.

why the freak out over 24gb of ram?

I had 16gb and doubled it, just because, but it was stupid cause even when i have like 20 applications running, i never am allocating more than 16.

Yeah, not as powerful as I thought at first. I looked up the Passmark scores for that CPU but didn't notice it was the dual-CPU page:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php...243&cpuCount=2

The single CPU score much slower than the i5 in my home desktop. The dual Xeon's are a touch faster than my i5, but probably not really in most real-world usage.

PassMark - Intel Xeon E5520 @ 2.27GHz - Price performance comparison

My i5: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...70+%40+3.20GHz

At work we sell 3.06ghz xeon cpus for 30 bucks. Still new in box :D

I've been looking forward to getting 2 or more and making some frankinstein shit but then when i think about it why do i even need it which i dont. I already have 2 desktops 2 tablets and a laptop.

This is a map of FiOS deployment across the US:


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...38387a1ba1.png


I had no idea that such a tiny area was covered. Been spoiled living in red areas for the past (n) years. Really gonna miss it...

What does that suggest?

It suggests a failure of the free market to adequately serve the needs of the population, and would seem to argue in favor of a model in which communications services are provided by the state rather than by private business.

Silly me, I thought you were suggesting you are no longer going to live in a FIOS area...

I quite like my fios internet:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4f1f0522b1.png


meanwhile in state run internets:

https://d1jn4vzj53eli5.cloudfront.ne...pg?h=394&w=500

I'm getting fiber (not Verizon) installed sometime next week. It is expanding in our area as fast as they can install it.

Finally got rid of my crappy L-Desk from staples I'd carried all through college. Pretty happy with how it all turned out.

Attachment 237411

Cool desk, nice and simple :likecat:

IKEA p/n 501.067.73 (GERTON table top, beech) plus
IKEA p/n 702.179.73 (ADILS Leg, black)
?

I ask because I was thinking of buying the same tabletop to use as a kitchen island, with either the OLOV or GERTON adjustable-height chrome leg. How do you like it?

Yessir. I didn't like the chrome legs when I saw them in person, the finish just looked odd to me. I bought the cheapy legs for now and I'm going to do something on my own later on. Height wise they're fine though, I just don't like the way they look. Makes the butchers block look cheap.

Tower is sitting on their huge butchers block cutting board and some Captiva? legs. I'm out to lunch now or I'd post links.

How's the countertop itself in terms of rigidity / surface durability? I always use a cutting board whenever I'm slicing anything, but it's going to be in a kitchen none the less.

I've got two other Ikea desks which I use for general office / PC stuff (they're the BEKANT series, with a laminated finish), and while they're fine for what I use them for, the surface does scratch / ding easily- they wouldn't last long in a kitchen.

my specs
 

I built this for my work station about 3 years ago, still going strong.

Supermicro X10DAI workstation board
Dual Xeon E5-2683 cpus
128 GB ECC ram
2TB SSD main drive (recent upgrade)
8 TB raid 10 driven by 3ware raid controller
EVGA Titan Z graphics card
Dual LG MU97 monitors
1.5 KW power supply
Bigass Lian Li black aluminum case
Windows 7 ultimate 64bit

System used for bioinformatics work, very ram intensive, a few programs are multi thread optimized. Wish they all were.

I have killed yet another PSU. RIP.

lol what kind of psus do you buy man? damn.

Hmm weird man. It's a decent brand that should last you a life time lol