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Erat 09-10-2017 06:50 PM

Well, i'm running a Corsair RM850x PSU on a sort of similar build on an 1800x which is like 10 more watts. But i'm also running a d5 pump in a full loop which adds around 30w.

To be safe i'd say 750w. To future proof, another 850 would be a solid choice. Unless of course you plan on doing Ti cards in SLI or something silly. I still believe that a 650w would work for now, though it's always safe to future proof.

Edit* i don't recall ever having the fan on this PSU turn on. I don't think it turns on until around 400w worth of load. FWIW.

EO2K 09-10-2017 07:45 PM

Funny you should mention the fan thing. After reading up about how they handle the fan curve in these things, it sounds like it doesn't even bother to turn on until you hit 40-50% load anyway. That makes the 750W is start to sound a lot better. Thanks for weighting in :bigtu:

triple88a 09-11-2017 05:04 PM

Sooo story time. 2 monthsish ago i bought a ryzen 1700 with 3000mhz gskill ram and asrock fatal1ty gaming k4 mobo. Used my oem windows cd. Apparently its fucked up because the system kept on crashing. I updated it as far as i could but it still kept crashing. Borrowed corsair 3200mhz ram from a buddy, no luck. Returned it. Exchanged it for another 1700 with asus prime x370pro mobo and corsair vengeance 3200mhz ram. Was told to install the creators update and then it ran fine with that for a month overclocked to 3.75. Then it started crashing again every 10 minutes. At that point I said fuck it and returned everything to the store.

Erat 09-11-2017 05:57 PM

"crash"

Not even a single BSOD code?

z31maniac 09-11-2017 08:12 PM

The only time I've had multiple crashes with no BSOD was a dying video card.

Erat 09-12-2017 05:47 AM

I've had PSUs do it. Even a short in the system do it. Kinda silly to blame this on ryzen.

Joe Perez 10-03-2017 08:25 AM

I'm starting to think it may be time for an upgrade. Eight years is a pretty good life for a desktop PC...


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...71d8ae5c3f.png


I should note that I'm not even running AutoCAD or anything special in the background. Just a few dozen tabs across four browsers, my VMware sandbox machine, and VLC.

Besusjesus 10-03-2017 09:47 AM

Looks like you need to download more RAM.

Erat 10-03-2017 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1443515)
I'm starting to think it may be time for an upgrade. Eight years is a pretty good life for a desktop PC...


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...71d8ae5c3f.png


I should note that I'm not even running AutoCAD or anything special in the background. Just a few dozen tabs across four browsers, my VMware sandbox machine, and VLC.

Do you want 8 more years out of a PC?

Really the argument is how cheap do you want to be. Because for your tasks you can literally get by with some low end hardware these days.

I always recommend an SSD these days or even NVME. Never go back to physical drives. 4 core 8 thread is enough. 16gb of ram just because. Reuse or buy some used video card. All set.

Joe Perez 10-03-2017 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Besusjesus (Post 1443535)
Looks like you need to download more RAM.

I agree. Sadly, this motherboard is maxed out at 16.




Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1443607)
Do you want 8 more years out of a PC?

Ideally, yes. I'm pretty sure this machine is the longest-lasting home PC I've had, and I'm both cheap and greedy.



Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1443607)
Really the argument is how cheap do you want to be. Because for your tasks you can literally get by with some low end hardware these days.

I always recommend an SSD these days or even NVME. Never go back to physical drives. 4 core 8 thread is enough. 16gb of ram just because. Reuse or buy some used video card. All set.

I'm already running a 250 GB SSD as the boot & applications drive, with data on a dedicated 1 TB spinny-rust drive, media on 6 TB of rotating oxide, another 1 TB spinner as an overnight differential backup volume for the first two and a 120 GB SSD as the pagefile drive.

Current CPU is an i5-750 (Nehalem), which is a 4-core. No in-socket upgrade path available from here, and as you can see, it's running at near maximum.

Already have 16 GB of RAM, which is maxed for this board, and as said above, the pagefile is also on its own dedicated SSD.



Not really looking for advice, just randomly bitching. At some point I'll get tired enough of it to do something...

Besusjesus 10-03-2017 02:52 PM

What are your storage needs like? SSD is the way to go for your OS and frequently used programs, but for mass storage they are not cheap - i dunno how big your porn folder is but you can pickup 2TB seagates for around $70 for file storage. That being said a 500GB Samsung SSD is around $180 now..big enough for OS + programs.

Braineack 10-03-2017 03:06 PM

joe, you want my old MB, cpu, and ram?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f8ef2d6206.png

Joe Perez 10-03-2017 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1443645)
joe, you want my old MB, cpu, and ram?

Serious question: which CPU?

Braineack 10-03-2017 04:03 PM

MB BIOSTAR TA970 AM3+ AMD970 R
CPU AMD 8-CORE FX-8320 3.5G 8M R
MEM 8G CRUCIAL BLS8G3D1609DS1S00 R x 4

it's only 4 years now, so youll get another 4 years out of it!

y8s 10-03-2017 04:04 PM

Joe, remember how scott couldn't do modern computer tasks with that setup so he upgraded to a slightly faster Intel mobo cpu combo?

Joe Perez 10-03-2017 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1443667)
CPU AMD 8-CORE FX-8320 3.5G 8M R

Uhm... how do I say this politely?

No thank you.

Braineack 10-03-2017 05:44 PM

its your funeral.

Joe Perez 10-03-2017 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1443696)
its your funeral.

Someday, your parents will explain it to you.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...314b251ddf.png

2slow 10-04-2017 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by G3ML1NGZ (Post 1437352)
Decided to indulge a bit and finally get a gaming rig. The last one I got when I was 14.

Ryzen 1600x
geforce 1080ti
corsair vengeance 2x8gb @3000mhz
Msi tomahawk b350 motherboard
RM 650X PSU
samsung 500gb SSD.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...603b4c8e56.jpg


The case and cables didn't offer a whole lot of cable tucking but I did what I could


I'll do screens later. But first up is to wall mount the screen since this is also my hobby table where I paint and toy with electrical work

Nice, but should have gone for NVMe. Basically up-to 5x SSD speed.

Erat 10-05-2017 06:38 AM

Speaking of NVME I put a heatsink on mine. It lowered temperature s from 52C to 40C. Hopefully it extends the life a little.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...64b316cd6a.jpg


triple88a 10-09-2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1438976)
"crash"

Not even a single BSOD code?

I had some codes yes. first one was due to windows 10 not supporting it. upgraded to the creators update and it fixed it. the last one that broke the camels back though.. nope. no idea. screen turns black, video card shuts down and no screen. Holding the power button for +10 wouldnt turn off the system either.

Anyways, returned the failen.. now running my old movie studio setup. runs like a champ with the same video card and psu that i used for the ryzen. not a single crash on the "new" old system. go figure.

slug_dub 10-10-2017 07:29 PM

I built a new machine this year in anticipating of getting into a HTC Vive for driving sims, Tiltbrush and lulz.
My last one was put together in 2009. Its rather annoying and depressing to find that the first features and specs manufacturers want to tell you about these days are about how much it can light up. On and on they wax lyrical about LEDs. Thanks teenagers.

I went with an i7 7700k because I'm a feelthy OSX person and I want to hackintosh it.
I stayed with air cooling mostly because of familiarity and for a bit less hassle.
NVME is the mtfkn best, do it.
MSI 1080ti. Really quite impressed.
A 4k Dell monitor.
Windows 10 is actually mostly ok... I don't mind it as much as I thought I would.
It was rock solid for the first two weeks, but then started with occasional crash to desktop in the middle of a game. Overall I'm quite impressed at how biffo this thing is.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1b792740ac.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...fca2314f70.jpg

For now I'm probably skipping on the VR headset because car parts. :rofl:

Joe Perez 10-10-2017 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1443515)
I'm starting to think it may be time for an upgrade. Eight years is a pretty good life for a desktop PC...

New PC crew assemble:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...74c34685b0.png

i7-6700 isn't exactly bleeding-edge, but it's the strongsauce as compared to my i5-750.

And yes, I am using a Win10 tablet as a mousepad. This Ikea desk is pretty much the worst possible mousing surface.

Joe Perez 10-15-2017 12:38 AM

This is more like it:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6f0e0ae4e1.png

Need to buy another SATA host adapter and maybe a tad more RAM...

slug_dub 10-15-2017 06:33 PM

40GB of ram is a slightly unusual number to have innit? Either way more ram never hurt anybody :bigtu:

Joe Perez 10-15-2017 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by slug_dub (Post 1445831)
40GB of ram is a slightly unusual number to have innit? Either way more ram never hurt anybody :bigtu:

Would you have felt better if it had said 39 GB or 41 GB?

:giggle:

The machine came with one 8GB stick. Add 2x 16 GB and you get 40.

slug_dub 10-15-2017 06:54 PM

But Joe zomg then you're not running in dual channel wibbly wobbly you're putey will splode and you've failed at lyf!!

Yeah nah that explains it.

Joe Perez 10-15-2017 09:15 PM

DDR4.

Dual channel is obsoletespeak. :D

y8s 10-17-2017 12:44 PM

kinda feel like you should be running a 40 bit OS.

Joe Perez 10-17-2017 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1446167)
kinda feel like you should be running a 40 bit OS.

Parity.

Joe Perez 10-30-2017 08:51 PM

USB 3.0 is nice:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f6006d0de4.png

Finally gave up on the problem of the WD media player randomly losing its network mappings. Bought an external 8TB drive to plug directly into it, and I'll just reverse-mount it onto the VM instead. Currently transferring the existing media from the 4TB internal drive to the new one, and laughing about the fact that it's moving twice the capacity of my first hard drive every second, over a skinny little cable, in the background while I'm doing other stuff.



In unrelated news, 200TB used to look a lot more impressive than it does today:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...216fecf11c.png

triple88a 10-30-2017 10:12 PM

So i wanna make a media and file storage server with my freshly installed ubuntu. Any guides that go over firewall and all that stuff?

bahurd 10-30-2017 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1448827)
So i wanna make a media and file storage server with my freshly installed ubuntu. Any guides that go over firewall and all that stuff?

Here's one of many: Creating A Home Media & File Server With Ubuntu

Art 10-31-2017 08:36 AM

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Joe Perez 10-31-2017 11:37 AM

Unrelated:


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2cb435de50.png

triple88a 10-31-2017 11:25 PM

Basically I want to run it as a plex server so i can watch my movies remotely and also be able to upload files to it remotely.

2slow 10-31-2017 11:46 PM

Running plex is easy, nothing complex about it. Using Linux as a platform for home media center or central storage is also not only doable, but fairly easy given today's package management systems and quality GPL projects. Yes, it will likely be more involved than doing it on windows and one will need slightly better set of skills, but Linux is not magic. you just have to be willing to dig and drop to shell, maybe recompile a kernel in a more extreme case.

While throwing all of this on a PC or old server is doable and even kind of fun.. for those who don't have the time to mess with all this and have some money I would recommend looking at Synology or QNAP. These NAS devices can function not only as a cloud enabled home storage with massive capacity, but run Plex and do transcoding while outputting the content over HDMI or streaming over network. Better yet, pair up a simple NAS box with something like Amazon FireTV with Kodi or Plex. It's a small and powerful box with very easy to use interface and remote. Totally worth it.

Joe Perez 11-01-2017 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by 2slow (Post 1449073)
maybe recompile a kernel in a more extreme case.

It's 1995 all over again.

I've compiled TIA on the VAX 11/780. It's running well.

We've had six POTS lines run into the apartment. The neighbors are not happy about the trenching, but obsolete federal regulations mean that it costs us nothing.

Zach has done some arcane wizardry to bind the six 28.8 modems into a single TCP/IP connection.

Is it TCP/IP, or is it NetVX? Only the transport layer knows for sure.

Trumpet Winsock runs on the Windows machines. I use Netscape Navigator to initiate the connection.

The 10b2 ethernet cable throbs with excitement.

From downstairs, I hear the modems whistle their shrill mating call from the shelf above the Debian machine.

The plants remain un-watered. They will die.

Night falls.

2slow 11-01-2017 01:32 AM

In 1995 i was in school...in 2000 i was working as sysadmin for a dotCom using Toshiba Libreto mini laptops with dual PCMCIA cards splitting into 4 serial ports running US Robotics modems dialing our modem banks and then bonding those channels. It was our way to get to multiple T1s across the county in order to provide fast wi-fi to other machines where we could not get anything more than a few phone lines. Librettos were not only operating modems, but also ran server OS and a cache proxy on top. This way any client accessing libretto over wi-fi and using it as a gateway would be able to get high speed access to the internet and any pages pulled up by a single machine would be cached for all other clients. When i starting working in IT 33.6 was already standard with 56k being the new fancy way to get online. I've also just cought the tail of the token ring networks a few years prior to that in 1998, when they basically died for good.

y8s 11-01-2017 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1449075)
It's 1995 all over again.

I've compiled TIA on the VAX 11/780. It's running well.

We've had six POTS lines run into the apartment. The neighbors are not happy about the trenching, but obsolete federal regulations mean that it costs us nothing.

Zach has done some arcane wizardry to bind the six 28.8 modems into a single TCP/IP connection.

Is it TCP/IP, or is it NetVX? Only the transport layer knows for sure.

Trumpet Winsock runs on the Windows machines. I use Netscape Navigator to initiate the connection.

The 10b2 ethernet cable throbs with excitement.

From downstairs, I hear the modems whistle their shrill mating call from the shelf above the Debian machine.

The plants remain un-watered. They will die.

Night falls.

Someone's been rolling up copies of Neal Stephenson's early works and smoking them like cigars.

Joe Perez 11-01-2017 11:47 AM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...901f35dabb.png


The mid 1990s were a great time to be in college. We got to be the first generation who embraced the internet prior to adulthood, and the last who lived out an analog childhood. I started with cassette tapes and the card catalog, and finished with Usenet and the World Wide Web. (This was back when the WWW was recognized as a specific subset of the internet, and not a proxy for the whole thing.)


Using a computer required that you actually know something about the computer. If you were fortunate, you were located near enough to the computer that you could bike over and look at it through the glass. So very many blinking lights.


Netscape mail? I'm sure I've got a copy of my last post file archived somewhere. That was back before persistence was taken for granted.


Last time I tried logging into my Pine account on Grove, it still worked.


A T1 used to be fast. Now, I'm living in a world in which I recently stated "We're still paying for a T1 to Willis? I didn't even know those still existed. Fuck it, we've got two separate wireless IP paths that cost nothing, cancel that shit."

y8s 11-01-2017 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1449142)


The mid 1990s were a great time to be in college.

I'm on roughly your same timeline. I may not have been as nitty and gritty as you, but I was there for that first CG enterprise MOV that floated down the internet.

My domain was registered in Jan of 1998.
I had a Metricom "Ricochet" wireless modem.
I "upgraded" to Windows for Workgroups.
I played games over arcnet cables flopped down across the dorm hallways because the adapters were under $15.
I met my now-wife on IRC (eris free) before there was a windows client.

Joe Perez 11-01-2017 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1449176)
My domain was registered in Jan of 1998.
I had a Metricom "Ricochet" wireless modem.
I "upgraded" to Windows for Workgroups.
I played games over arcnet cables flopped down across the dorm hallways because the adapters were under $15.
I met my now-wife on IRC (eris free) before there was a windows client.

Good times, man.

Pine is not Elm. :likecat:

Girz0r 11-01-2017 03:30 PM

Meeting your now wife over IRC is nothing to sneeze at.

Growing up I had 2 computers. Mostly played console games. (NES/SNES/N64/PS1)

Family PC #1:
I remember windows 3.11

MSPaint. A bunch of programs I didn't know how to use at the time and zero internet until later.

DOS Games:
Mario teaches typing
Mario lost in time.
Treasure Mountain.
Home Alone 2

Family PC #2:
Windows 98
Team Fortress Classic & Half Life.
Command & Conquer games.
Stolen Dial Up config that connected to the local high school, then routed through a T1 connection from my small town high school to the nearest big city (corpus christi) and out from there.

Braineack 11-01-2017 05:56 PM

new workspace:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...386c8e97d8.png

Art 11-01-2017 11:29 PM

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2slow 11-01-2017 11:47 PM

It's McMillan...

By the way... just about a week ago I've found some old video tape I've made of a friend, his wife and their 1 year old in some hotel room. So we tried to figure out where that was and then it hit us - it was Las Vegas when we went to COMDEX ! Good times....

Girz0r 12-05-2017 03:14 PM



Not good enough for Random pictures thread.

Erat 12-12-2017 07:22 PM

I really want to put this in my computer. But i really don't want to tear my loop apart and my OCD would have me redoing lines and all that... ugh.



Besusjesus 12-13-2017 01:02 PM

Just ordered some of that ( I assume that is the Primochill Vue), should be shipping out at the end of the month. Looks amazing, I've been waiting on a reliable coolant like this ever since i saw the Aurora line from Mayhems. So far reviewers are having good luck with this stuff from Primochill.

Erat 12-13-2017 05:35 PM

Yes. The lead time was about 2 months for me.

I can't wait to see this stuff start making it's way into different systems. I think it looks great.

triple88a 12-17-2017 11:07 AM

Last i heard of primochill vue was their customer service..

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3605696827.jpg

Joe Perez 12-17-2017 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Besusjesus (Post 1456701)
Just ordered some of that ( I assume that is the Primochill Vue), should be shipping out at the end of the month. Looks amazing, I've been waiting on a reliable coolant like this ever since i saw the Aurora line from Mayhems. So far reviewers are having good luck with this stuff from Primochill.

Serious question: what exactly is in Primochill, other than coloring agents? I can't find an MSDS on it, and I'm curios as to what makes it (or any of the other coolant liquids / additives) superior to distilled water.

Art 12-17-2017 01:24 PM

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Erat 12-17-2017 02:02 PM

Opinions on keyboards are like opinions on beers. It all depends on what you do and the style you like. No two opinions will be the same.

Girz0r 12-17-2017 02:03 PM

If I remember correctly, corsair or cooler master may have a membrain KB of higher quality than what you posted.

If I were to pickup that logitec I'd just goto Best Buy or another big store.

Erat 12-17-2017 02:09 PM

Also, Romer-G > CherryMX.

I will probably get shot for this opinion.

Girz0r 12-17-2017 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1457319)
Also, Romer-G > CherryMX.

I will probably get shot for this opinion.

I haven't tried either, so you're safe for now.

Still rocking my Logitech G15 orange KB.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.co...427919431.jpg?

Art 12-18-2017 12:30 AM

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Besusjesus 12-18-2017 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1457301)
Serious question: what exactly is in Primochill, other than coloring agents? I can't find an MSDS on it, and I'm curios as to what makes it (or any of the other coolant liquids / additives) superior to distilled water.

Honestly, I have never had ANY difference in cooling if I use distilled water VS any coolant. I personally just like the colors and not having to add kill coils or biocide to my PC. I do run distilled + biocide in my media PC and it has never had issues.

I do not know what/how they make the VUE coolant, the pastel is just water and the color concentrate while this stuff has pearls, but how they are getting it to not settle is beyond my knowledge. Jayztwocents did an update video after running it and it actually cleaned his blocks, I have high hopes for this stuff.


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