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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:39 PM
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So, I've installed an eBay aluminum radiator with slim fans and a new thermostat in my '00 and now it's taking forever to get to an operating temperature.

It is not a consistent behavior either. Sometimes it takes about 5-10 minutes to get to operating temperature and sometimes it can be 30+ minutes. It's worse when driving at freeway speeds.

Anyone has any clues? Car is stock.
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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What thermostat did you use?
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Sounds like the new thermostat is suck open to me. Does the upper radiator hose feel warm before the car gets up to temp?
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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You want a 180 degree thermostat. I know the parts stores tend to either give out 160 or 195 degree ones whenever I have asked for a new one. I have to specify wanting a 180 degree one.
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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That's what I was thinking...

I've used an AutoZone thermostat. I have a spare 180* one laying around so I'll try using that one instead.

Thanks guys!
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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^ Agree with the above.

It has to be thermostat related. When the motor is cool the radiator shouldn't be seeing any significant flow and it should warm up in a few minutes. My stock gauge shows normal temp by the time it hits 150 degrees so if that's where you're getting the reading from it's way cold.

Stock NB thermostat is 195, NA is 180 which is preferable IMO. I'd buy a new 180 degree thermostat and more than likely that's going to fix the problem.
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Also, make sure you install the thermostat with the jiggle valve up and burp the system well.

Or add a turbo system and that will help get it warmed up.
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Or add a turbo system and that will help get it warmed up.
It's actually going to happen if I turn this into a race car later down the road. For now this is a fun daily driver.
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanSoot
It's actually going to happen if I turn this into a race car later down the road. For now this is a fun daily driver.
Dibs on turbo system.
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Sounds like you've got an air pocket.
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
Dibs on turbo system.
ROFL!

You didn't buy a Stant, did you?
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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I bought whatever thermostat AutoZone had. My spare 180* one is Motorad 323-180.
Old Oct 2, 2012 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shuiend
im not sure why but i had to watch this twice.
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by t2couger
im not sure why but i had to watch this twice.
It's because JP is the biggest interweb beauty I know.
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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I love the OEM dual stat. and will always use it.

Slava, where is your heater core outlet routed, back to the water pump inlet?
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by UrbanSoot
It's actually going to happen if I turn this into a race car later down the road. For now this is a fun daily driver.
Haven't been reading Hustler's thread, eh?

Race Car = NA
Street Car = Turbo

Nothing puts the fun into DD like a turbo (at least until you blow your HG).

Agree with Brain. The Mazda OEM stats are well worth it.
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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I'm curious why the na 1.8's use the 180* (according to you guys) and the nb uses the 195*?

Does anyone know?

I heard someone say "emissions" before, but why would the nb require to run hotter to achieve the same emissions numbers as the na? Or is the nb supposed to run "cleaner"?
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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whats the temperature rating? when the stat first opens?

the 1.6L NA is actually:

Initial-opening temperature
Main: 86.5-89.5°C (188-193°F)
Sub: 83.5-86.5°C (182-188°F)
Full-open temperature: 100°C (212°F)


I haven't seen what the 1.8L NAs stat looks like, im sure its similar. the part numbers are different, but it looks to be a dual-stat as well.

but yeah, the NB runs hotter.
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I'm curious why the na 1.8's use the 180* (according to you guys) and the nb uses the 195*?

Does anyone know?

I heard someone say "emissions" before, but why would the nb require to run hotter to achieve the same emissions numbers as the na? Or is the nb supposed to run "cleaner"?
higher exhaust temps, to get the catalytic converter hotter? I'm just guessing here.

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