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Old 05-02-2007, 12:38 AM   #21
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well a turbo has a benefit and dust does not but causes ring and cylinder bore wear. A well tuned turbo setup can be very reliable.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:31 AM   #22
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dust in the engine is such a small thing compared to the massive potential damage that a turbo kit can create. It's like complaining that there's a fly in your soup when you're eating dinner with an ugly fat chick.
While drunk..and its the bosses daughter.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:37 AM   #23
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I use a tube sock over the turbo inlet.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:08 AM   #24
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I use a tube sock over the turbo inlet.
Are you serious? How long have you ran it like that? Any more oil burning than usual?
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whats a tube sock?to google i go.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:13 AM   #26
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you should run a gay tube sock ...lol look at the top of the page
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Are you serious? How long have you ran it like that? Any more oil burning than usual?
Hell yes i'm serious. I haven't seen anymore oil burning but I believe this to be because it was my spankin sock for 5 years. The Astroglide absorbed by the sock has been taking great care of my motor.


I have seen some cars use a nylon over the turbo inlet when drag racing.
I run a some off brand filter, nothing special, thinking i'm gonna go AEM next time around though.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:34 AM   #28
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One has nothing to do with the other. A turbo enhances performance whereas "dust" causes engine wear without any benefits. I can see you don't have much to add to the discussion.
no ****. But alas, I bring the best viewpoint to the table....who gives a **** what filter you use. Pantyhose, sock, K&N, HKS, AEM, OEM....they all work. It's more important to me to have the least amount of pressure drop from a filter....so that entitles one that does sub-miata.net "standards of filteration"...what does that mean for my engine? nothing. It'll work and be just as harmful as anything else can "potentially" be.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:38 AM   #29
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Lex, you're worrying over nothing. I've had a K&N in every car I've ever owned and never had a single problem. The little one that Braineak posted is the one I'm currently running. The little choices like this are the ones that will end up frustrating the hell out of you and there's just no reason for it. It looks like the TDR adapter is a funky size.
Just go to ebay and search "miata maf adapter". They come in aluminum and plastic. Be sure to get the 3" one.


The reason Braineak was giving you **** is because the K&N "question" is one of the biggest conspiracy theories in the aftermarket. Some newb will show up and say "My buddy says K&N destroyed his engine because it let in too much dust." In the end, you're gonna let in a little more dust with just about any high performance aftermarket filter, but we're talking about micron sized particles here. We all run performance filters (as does just about every other dude on the planet who installs a filter as the first mod), none of us have problems, and no engine anywhere was ever destroyed by a K&N. Stop worrying about it, buy the 3" MAF adapter, buy the little K&N, and move on.

And Scott, you be nice... he's been corrupted and it's up to us to set him straight.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:32 AM   #30
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Lol guys, I have been running a cone filter on my turbo setup for over two years (since I had the turbo setup) and when I run my finger around the inside of the intake tubing I pick up a fine layer of dust particles.

I'm not sure if this has been the case with the OEM filter box, didn't bother to check when that was on there. It's good to hear you guys are not seeing excessive engine wear due to a cone filter.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:22 PM   #31
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Use on factory mazda filters.
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I have handled Green brand filters and they are much nicer than K&N's in my opinion. MUCH nicer rubber molding/surround and the square panel filter (80's camaro) flows better than the K&N on my K&N display thing with the pingpong ball. But they are a decent amount more so I've never used them. Also K&N's come in almost every concieveable configuration. They were the only ones that make filters that could work with my setup.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:49 PM   #33
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It's good to hear you guys are not seeing excessive engine wear due to a cone filter.
Why would Miatas see excessive engine wear and other vehicles not? Is there a specific make and model car you know of that always see excessive engine wear when aftermarket cone filters are used? Dude, you've bought into the hype somewhere along the line. Get it out of your head!!! Aftermarket cone/drop-in filters do not harm your engine.

A stock filter might be capable of catching particles down to 3microns, and K&N's are generally rated for 5-6microns. So no, they do not filter as well... but at 6microns, who cares! The only thing to pay attention to with a K&N style filter that needs to be oiled to work properly is not to overoil it, like it says in the directions. If you do over-oil, some of it may be pulled into the intake tract and foul the MAS/MAF/intake sensor... easily cleaned but more easily avoided.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:28 AM   #34
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Who uses a MAF/AFM?
Get that MSPNP Sam, screw the LM1.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:47 AM   #35
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Why would Miatas see excessive engine wear and other vehicles not? Is there a specific make and model car you know of that always see excessive engine wear when aftermarket cone filters are used? Dude, you've bought into the hype somewhere along the line. Get it out of your head!!! Aftermarket cone/drop-in filters do not harm your engine.

A stock filter might be capable of catching particles down to 3microns, and K&N's are generally rated for 5-6microns. So no, they do not filter as well... but at 6microns, who cares! The only thing to pay attention to with a K&N style filter that needs to be oiled to work properly is not to overoil it, like it says in the directions. If you do over-oil, some of it may be pulled into the intake tract and foul the MAS/MAF/intake sensor... easily cleaned but more easily avoided.
I'm not claiming they are harmful, just trying to gauge opinions out there and see what people have experienced. Thanks for your input, and don't worry I'm not caught up in any hype.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:52 AM   #36
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haha "a filter will harm your engine and make it die sooner..."

yeah, so will doubling the horsepower. I say get a dual layer foam filter and go have fun. rebuild when it breaks.
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Right now i have no air filter because both filters i have don't fit
fitlers are for pussies
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:12 AM   #38
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Right now i have no air filter because both filters i have don't fit
fitlers are for pussies
yeah, **** it, be a man, don't use a filter ....
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