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Old 12-11-2008, 10:11 PM   #41
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The Bell scooper is a work of art. Unfortunately it's not going to live a long life on a less than stock height car. My car is 12.x inches fender to hub (not that low) and I knocked the scooper off in about a week. And I was being mindful and careful. :(

However it was extremely functional. So I'm going to need to figure out how to run it again when it gets warm.
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The Bell scooper is a work of art. Unfortunately it's not going to live a long life on a less than stock height car. My car is 12.x inches fender to hub (not that low) and I knocked the scooper off in about a week. And I was being mindful and careful. :(

However it was extremely functional. So I'm going to need to figure out how to run it again when it gets warm.

You knocked it off.

As for Huslter if you don't want to cut a prefect R-lip then try and find one that someone broke in half and cut that.
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Hustler received the one that goes under the R-lip....and we both questioned as to how long it would last. Great piece of work, but that low will def. be the first thing that sees the carnage.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:52 AM   #44
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Hustler received the one that goes under the R-lip....and we both questioned as to how long it would last. Great piece of work, but that low will def. be the first thing that sees the carnage.
i think I have the one for the standard bumper. Either way, the **** doesn't fit ebcuase the hardware is weird.
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Forgive me son...... too many cars and not one of them my own.
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Hustler, you're really overthinking all of this. You've got a vented hood, a reroute, and a big radiator. I've got a friend up north who has that combo and his car barely warms up. My car has a stock hood, stock coolant, and my fans aren't even wired in parallel, and I only overheat in the worst of conditions (100+ degree ambient). In addition, with your larger turbo and modest boost levels, you're able to run more timing which means less load on the cooling system in general.

Leave the scooper off completely. Put your oil cooler behind the intercooler. Get the car on the track and see if you need anything else at all. I'd bet $10 you don't.
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+1 for savs comment.

You got too much time on your hands waiting for track days that you are just over analyzing everything. Get out there, beat on it, and watch the gauges. I'm sure you will be fine. Wouldn't recommend cutting up the lip though IMO.
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I want to be able to get up in August in this car, and do a track day. I want to be able to go back-to-back on 30-minute sessions. I know someone who's raced a few turbo miatas who's overheated every one.

I'd love to keep the stock lip if possible...I guess I could always try to go without, and if it starts running hot, take off the r-pack lip and finish the track day, then get to cutting. Maybe I'll ask BEGi to make one since I already paid for it, but leave it off the car for now.

I still have to shroud the front of the radiator too.
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Hustler, you're really overthinking all of this. You've got a vented hood, a reroute, and a big radiator. I've got a friend up north who has that combo and his car barely warms up. My car has a stock hood, stock coolant, and my fans aren't even wired in parallel, and I only overheat in the worst of conditions (100+ degree ambient). In addition, with your larger turbo and modest boost levels, you're able to run more timing which means less load on the cooling system in general.

Leave the scooper off completely. Put your oil cooler behind the intercooler. Get the car on the track and see if you need anything else at all. I'd bet $10 you don't.
I agree, only use a scooper if you do over heat.

But here in Texas it stays hot. 3days ago I walked around with a T-shirt on and my cousin dropped the top on his car, with no heater. 2 days ago it sleeted. And Sunday it supposed to be 74 degrees again. We go from extreme to extreme here. And about the last week of May. We hit regular high 90's to 100+. July and August are crazy HOT! Factory cars try to overheat at redlights sometimes.

But you have so much air flowing in that thing. And a lip too. I doubt that scooper will make that much difference.

Sell it to MEEEEE! LOL
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I want to be able to get up in August in this car, and do a track day. I want to be able to go back-to-back on 30-minute sessions. I know someone who's raced a few turbo miatas who's overheated every one.

I'd love to keep the stock lip if possible...I guess I could always try to go without, and if it starts running hot, take off the r-pack lip and finish the track day, then get to cutting. Maybe I'll ask BEGi to make one since I already paid for it, but leave it off the car for now.

I still have to shroud the front of the radiator too.
We should bolt up a 17,000 BTU Window unit in the mouth. LOL

Sorry I thought that was funny.

How many do you have????? If you paid for a race lip, get it.

I'm getting confused as to how many options you have. If the car is already at begi, and the lip is on the car. And they are going to make a scooper. Man let them look at the 2 together, they will make it right. Then no worry's.

You already paid for it.

But I think your car is so over kill, You need to push your 12psi on the track, And 22psi on the street!
I bet it is crazy fast..........
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