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Old 09-15-2009, 02:10 AM   #1
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Default Have pics and questions. FM2 an LINK. help a NOOB :)

i bought a wrecked 90 with a FM2 and LINK ... now trying to fix it..

just thought id get more eyes on this as im trying to figure out the car and get it on the road.

thanks for your responses.


ok, i have been working on the car a bit and here are some updates.
please pardon the pic size as its 56k no way

please post if you can be informative... still trying to figure the car out.

Ok, so i pulled off the busted wheel and im happy with what i see. as in....
1. i dont see any suspension
damage, please let me know if you see otherwise.
2. i guess those are koni yellows? now i wonder what the springs are... hmmm..
3. can someone id the sway bar?
4. that rusted pipe under the sway bar is the IC pipin . can i salvage that? im thinking of pulling them, knocking off most of the rust and then spraying with a high temp paint. please recommend products or process if you can.



ok, here is some engine stuff

i started the car today and it ran, but ran rough, im assuming that its due to the fact that the IC pipes are off and the vacuum is kind of wacky....

1. first pic looks nice and clean. yay! now the hot pipe that runs by the fans is actually attached to the fan frame. anyone heard of that? is that a bad idea?
2. please id the item labled as 1 in the pic.
3. in the next pic we see one of the LINK components, obviously.... what is it and where are the rest of them? i have the controller part that hooks up to a flat cable inside the car, but isnt there like a main brain that i have seen. that looks like a normal ECU? its not in the trunk as i have see on other cars. where could it be mounted?
4. please id the item labled under 3 in the pic.
5. please id the item labled under number 4 in the pic.
6. whats all that white stuff under number 5? should i be concerned?



ok, now some interior shots...

the comments are on the picks. any input would be appreciated. thanks.
PS... what is that think poking out of the floor? anyone?
also, when the car i running.. i dont see the gauges working... where do i look to resolve the issue?



now for some misc stuff.

1. can we id the exhaust?
2. rusted ic issue mentioned before.. and theres an oil leak i need to look into.
3. the busted rays wheel. +39... you guys should be proud as for the other 3, im thinking of either selling them or fining a good knockoff... anyone know of one? ... maybe ill ask that on the wheels forum.


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Old 09-15-2009, 08:45 AM   #2
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I hate people that post in another forum and then expect us to look at it. I hate miata.net!
Anyways why don't you give us a few details about the car (year, what upgrades, motor, etc.)and how much you paid for it
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:23 AM   #3
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if you look at the thread, you would find out that its a 90 an im around 2k atm.
mods according to what i was told... FM2, LINK. anything else, your guess is better then mine.

so please get over the hate of m.net and help me out with some answers so i can get the car on the road. i can duplicate things here, but seems like a waste....
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"The car reminds me of the theme of "Toy Story 2." Someone used to love that car and put the effort into making it fast, but over time, outgrew the love and neglected it."

-Ron M @m.net

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if you look at the thread, you would find out that its a 90 an im around 2k atm.
mods according to what i was told... FM2, LINK. anything else, your guess is better then mine.

so please get over the hate of m.net and help me out with some answers so i can get the car on the road. i can duplicate things here, but seems like a waste....
Sorry, if you can't take the time to copy/paste your information, I can't take the time to be redirected.

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"The car reminds me of the theme of "Toy Story 2." Someone used to love that car and put the effort into making it fast, but over time, outgrew the love and neglected it."

-Ron M @m.net

lol
Lol, that's awesome.
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mmk... ill copy and past just for you guys...
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This guy couldn't/wouldn't even measure his I/C piping. He asked what size coupler he needs.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:41 PM   #8
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mmmk... got it all posted up here...
and how about you guys back off... and instead of bashing, how about you actually post something thats helpful.. and m.net gets bashed on... at least i got some answers there.

but anyways... your HELP is much appreciated.
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I've already answered some of those questions for you. Didn't you believe me?

You may have a bent lower control arm. Get the car aligned, that will tell you.
Definitely Koni yellows, you'll have to show us what the springs look like.
I think it's a Racing Beat sway bar, but it's hard to say for sure. Not that it matters, what's important is what size it is, and you can measure that.
Rust on the IC pipes: go to your hardware store, get some good rust paint. Clean pipes and spray.

Ziptying the IC pipe to the fan housing isn't unheard of, the IC routing in that kit was tight.
Item 1 is the hose for the ISC valve, and the wires coming out are for the air temp sensor. I ID'd that for you over at Miata.net.
Item 2 is the MAP sensor for the Link. The "main brain" is in the passenger's footwell, inside the stock ECU box. If you follow the ribbon cable from the keypad, that's where it will go.
Item 3 is the boost control solenoid.
Item 4 is the diagnostic connector. It should say "DIAGNOSTIC" on the top.
I wouldn't be worried about the white stuff on #5. That's a hot area, and it looks like residue from something being burned up.

Based on those exhaust tips, I'm going to say that's one of the older FM turbo dual exhausts.

As for the gauges not working - do you mean none of them work at all? Time to dig into the wiring.
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I've already answered some of those questions for you. Didn't you believe me?

You may have a bent lower control arm. Get the car aligned, that will tell you.
Definitely Koni yellows, you'll have to show us what the springs look like.
I think it's a Racing Beat sway bar, but it's hard to say for sure. Not that it matters, what's important is what size it is, and you can measure that.
Rust on the IC pipes: go to your hardware store, get some good rust paint. Clean pipes and spray.

Ziptying the IC pipe to the fan housing isn't unheard of, the IC routing in that kit was tight.
Item 1 is the hose for the ISC valve, and the wires coming out are for the air temp sensor. I ID'd that for you over at Miata.net.
Item 2 is the MAP sensor for the Link. The "main brain" is in the passenger's footwell, inside the stock ECU box. If you follow the ribbon cable from the keypad, that's where it will go.
Item 3 is the boost control solenoid.
Item 4 is the diagnostic connector. It should say "DIAGNOSTIC" on the top.
I wouldn't be worried about the white stuff on #5. That's a hot area, and it looks like residue from something being burned up.

Based on those exhaust tips, I'm going to say that's one of the older FM turbo dual exhausts.

As for the gauges not working - do you mean none of them work at all? Time to dig into the wiring.
i do and you have been most helpful. thank you.

Item 3: is that boost control solenoid supposed to be working with the link? can you control boost from the link?
as for gauges, i didnt run the car long enough to examine everything. just check to make sure its alive but the gauges didnt move, except for the boost gauge.. that was in vacuum and vibrating like crazy.. as was the car.

oh m.net a poster said that the car should still run fine when the IC pipes are disconnected. can you confirm? in my experience if a key vacuum line comes off or get block, the car starts to run rough.

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I've already answered some of those questions for you. Didn't you believe me?
=Keith's attempt at ball busting!

Pasha, if you don't listen to Keith on these issues, you are hopeless!
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=Keith's attempt at ball busting!

Pasha, if you don't listen to Keith on these issues, you are hopeless!
yeah.. i figured that much.. lol
hes good knowledgeable ppl. thanks Keith!
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1-Car shouldn't run fine if the IC pipes are disconnected.
2-yes link controls the boost too ( I wouldn't mess with it though since you have no clue on tuning) get a link ecu tuning manual and a installation manual at flyinmiata.com read it and learn than ask questions. You will get 80% of your answers
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1-Car shouldn't run fine if the IC pipes are disconnected.
2-yes link controls the boost too ( I wouldn't mess with it though since you have no clue on tuning) get a link ecu tuning manual and a installation manual at flyinmiata.com read it and learn than ask questions. You will get 80% of your answers
thanks man. ill try to get the pipes hooked up today. see how it goes.
i have no intention of messing with the LINK unless there are issues, i hope there wont be and shouldnt be.

thanks.
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Actually, a car with a Link (or any other MAP based ECU) will run fine without the IC pipes connected. It won't see boost because the turbo isn't connected to the intake, but otherwise it won't have any trouble. This is not the case for a system that uses a MAF or an AFM, such as piggyback setups that retain the stock ECU.

If the vacuum lines to the MAP sensor are disconnected, I'd be surprised if you were able to get the car started at all.

Link tuning manual

The vacuum/boost gauge is mechanical. If the other gauges don't work, then you have some electrical issues to deal with. If the car is running badly, there are a whole bunch of potential reasons. First step is to determine if all four cylinders are running. Just for fun, I'd also do a compression check.
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This is not a website that will spoonfeed you, if you picked up a manual for your car you would have answered 90% of your own questions...

Figure some of this stuff out for yourself or you should sell this project to someone else.

And I would advise changing your attitude if you expect any help from anyone here.
Keith has already answered all of these, but you should open up for the little airplane...


#1 looks like the hose for the IAC valve that should be connected to your charge pipe somehow... but I really can't tell b/c your pic is **** and I'm not up on the 1.6 intake design
#2 I'm proud of you b/c you answered your own question
#3 As Keith said it is your EBC sol.
#4 is a diagnostics box for your obd1 system (hence the name diagnostics on the cover)
#5 looks like someone used some grease to seal the dp to the turbo? my guess at least, wouldn't worry too much about it.

The thing sticking through the floor looks like a bolt from a set of frame rail braces, but I don't see any in the other pics...
Your swaybar looks exactly like my RB Hollow, hard to tell though.
Good luck, you'll need it.

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Pasha,

With your responses and questions are you sure you want or are able to tackle getting this car back on the road? It's some pretty basic stuff you are asking and common, popular parts you are asking about. Most could be found and researched with a little effort of your own.

Seems you may be out of your element and depth. Not hating, just calling it as I see it.
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thanks for your responses guys. i guess i have a goo bit of work ahead of me.
love the little airplane!!!
as for being able tackle the project... mmmk.. now i feel a bit discouraged... lol thanks.
im going to try and make it... its a learning process more then anything..

... and yes researching would work. so would reading a book or 2, but its allays more effective to take the practical approach and get pointers from those that know.

thanks.
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pasha I'm about 30 mins away if that...., if you need help feel free to ask me I don't know anything about the link crap but I'm handy and able to help If ya need it, But for god's sake you need to read up on the miata I honestly don't think you should get involved with this car unless you know how everything works..... My
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Wow, so this guy totally disregarded all the info myself and others posted on m.net and he hopes to be spoon-fed on here?? Good luck!!
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