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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 12:58 AM
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Modifying an ATR Turbo Wastegate


I'm suddenly overboosting to 18psi when cool out.
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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This isn't really anything new. Us dsm guys have been doing this for quite a while because we used a 2 piece downpipe (think fm style) and a 38mm tial fit perfectly.

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In fact, I talked to Corky when my down pipe was being built and asked him about doing the same thing so I could run a tial and use different springs to control my boost instead of a mbc, to which he replied " there isn't much of an advantage to doing this because in the end, you are still relying on the size of the internal wastegate hole to prevent boost creep." You can port it out a bit, but its risky business as it will eventually crack if you port it too much.
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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This is how Cjernigan's first setup was, he didn't have boost control issues.
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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The biggest disadvantage w/ this setup is flow quality at the turbine exit, probably doesn't amount to anything though.

I couldn't do this w/ mine, as the wastegate port can't be sealed to the housing (big cavity.)
Old Jun 6, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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My S5 manifold doesn't have boost control issues, yet.
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Think space would permit something like this on a BEGi DP?

Is welding to cast more prone to cracking (ie BEGi's ex.manifold w/ ext wastegate)?
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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yes, it is more prone to cracking.
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski
"in the end, you are still relying on the size of the internal wastegate hole to prevent boost creep."
Right, but the flapper is gone too. That helps.
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I love this design from ATP... clean and Vband.
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We (CAT) tried that on a few engines and it worked well until the weight started to "stretch" the casting/machined sealing surface of the WG flange.
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by samnavy
I love this design from ATP... clean and Vband.
suposedly those really screw-up spool-up.
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