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Old 09-23-2013, 04:47 PM   #1
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Default I don't always tune n/a cars, but when i do, i make sure they belch black smoke

Can someone explain this to me?

TuningDRight Refocuses on the Naturally Aspirated NC TAKE 2 - MX-5 Miata Forum

Why are we making an n/a motor run that rich?

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Because he has no idea what he's doing?
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I like that it made a whopping 7whp more than the stock BP that Emilio just posted about. Very good.
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Wow, its surprising to see an M.net thread where someone that ISN'T a prominent poster here refuses to suck Jay's *****.
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When regular m.netters are hip to the bullshit, you know it's getting thick.
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Wow, its surprising to see an M.net thread where someone that ISN'T a prominent poster here refuses to suck Jay's *****.

I think Wooo has a great future in politics, though. I'm still not entirely sure what the **** he was on about.
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I dont like when people talk about gearing on a dyno (especially a dynojet). I stop caring about what they have to say after that.
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1. Wow, never go to m.net. Those guys are 'tards.
2. Interesting that the stock tune also went mega-rich (emissions?). In fact, looks like the tuner just tried to mimic the stock curve and didn't otherwise tune fuel.
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im sure all he did was bump timing a degree or two and charge $300
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i herd 11:1 afr maeks mad torques
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I dont like when people talk about gearing on a dyno (especially a dynojet). I stop caring about what they have to say after that.
Yo dawg, I made 180 ftlbs in 3rd gear and 206 in 4th gear on a dynojet with a car with a roots blower on the same day within minutes of each other. ***** legit.
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That dude is advertising an NC tune that makes less than my OEM VVT swap on MS3? Seriously?
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That dude is advertising an NC tune that makes less than my OEM VVT swap on MS3? Seriously?

I really liked comparing it against this: [NA] 135whp with stock NA8 long block - MX-5 Miata Forum

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I really want to choke both Wooo and the TDR guy for being so stupid.
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He's one of the "Golden Thirteen" over there. One of those that posts in every thread no matter what the topic is, and is the foremost expert on all things. What he says is LAW over there no matter how stupid it is, and is never wrong about anything.

I've actually had several conversations with the admin there about the 20 or so posters that seem to dominate the place with their holier than thou attitude.
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I really liked comparing it against this: [NA] 135whp with stock NA8 long block - MX-5 Miata Forum

Whoa dude! That's WAY above 11:1 AFR. ****'s gonna' blow for sure! M.net says so.
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I love that dude's reasoning: the car runs rich stock, so running it even more rich "tuned" is okay
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I like the direction that thread has taken. Now multiple posters are saying that discussing AFR's, tuning, and reliability constitute "trolling", and that all they care about is seeing dyno results.
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Yo dawg, I made 180 ftlbs in 3rd gear and 206 in 4th gear on a dynojet with a car with a roots blower on the same day within minutes of each other. ***** legit.
very legits especially considering that a dynojet works by multiplying the mass (weighted drum), acceleration (wheel speed) and the distance (circumference), then dividing that product by time (gearing/wheel size variable) multiplied by 550.
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The real truth is that I tuned it.

Hopefully that explains everything.

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