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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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Can someone explain this to me?

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Why are we making an n/a motor run that rich?

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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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Because he has no idea what he's doing?
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I like that it made a whopping 7whp more than the stock BP that Emilio just posted about. Very good.
Old Sep 23, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Wow, its surprising to see an M.net thread where someone that ISN'T a prominent poster here refuses to suck Jay's *****.
Old Sep 23, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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When regular m.netters are hip to the bullshit, you know it's getting thick.
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Originally Posted by thenuge26
Wow, its surprising to see an M.net thread where someone that ISN'T a prominent poster here refuses to suck Jay's *****.

I think Wooo has a great future in politics, though. I'm still not entirely sure what the **** he was on about.
Old Sep 23, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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I dont like when people talk about gearing on a dyno (especially a dynojet). I stop caring about what they have to say after that.
Old Sep 23, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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1. Wow, never go to m.net. Those guys are 'tards.
2. Interesting that the stock tune also went mega-rich (emissions?). In fact, looks like the tuner just tried to mimic the stock curve and didn't otherwise tune fuel.
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im sure all he did was bump timing a degree or two and charge $300
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i herd 11:1 afr maeks mad torques
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Originally Posted by Braineack
I dont like when people talk about gearing on a dyno (especially a dynojet). I stop caring about what they have to say after that.
Yo dawg, I made 180 ftlbs in 3rd gear and 206 in 4th gear on a dynojet with a car with a roots blower on the same day within minutes of each other. ***** legit.
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That dude is advertising an NC tune that makes less than my OEM VVT swap on MS3? Seriously?
Old Sep 23, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
That dude is advertising an NC tune that makes less than my OEM VVT swap on MS3? Seriously?

I really liked comparing it against this: [NA] 135whp with stock NA8 long block - MX-5 Miata Forum

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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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I really want to choke both Wooo and the TDR guy for being so stupid.
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He's one of the "Golden Thirteen" over there. One of those that posts in every thread no matter what the topic is, and is the foremost expert on all things. What he says is LAW over there no matter how stupid it is, and is never wrong about anything.

I've actually had several conversations with the admin there about the 20 or so posters that seem to dominate the place with their holier than thou attitude.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
I really liked comparing it against this: [NA] 135whp with stock NA8 long block - MX-5 Miata Forum

Whoa dude! That's WAY above 11:1 AFR. ****'s gonna' blow for sure! M.net says so.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 01:06 AM
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I love that dude's reasoning: the car runs rich stock, so running it even more rich "tuned" is okay
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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I like the direction that thread has taken. Now multiple posters are saying that discussing AFR's, tuning, and reliability constitute "trolling", and that all they care about is seeing dyno results.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Yo dawg, I made 180 ftlbs in 3rd gear and 206 in 4th gear on a dynojet with a car with a roots blower on the same day within minutes of each other. ***** legit.
very legits especially considering that a dynojet works by multiplying the mass (weighted drum), acceleration (wheel speed) and the distance (circumference), then dividing that product by time (gearing/wheel size variable) multiplied by 550.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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The real truth is that I tuned it.

Hopefully that explains everything.

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