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Old 03-18-2007, 05:57 PM   #1
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Default I know everyone is tired of my indecisiveness...but FM or BEGi?

The FM "no electronics kit" is $2800, the bell kit is $1000 more. Is the coolant re-route (which may not even be a true re-route), distribution block, air scooper, and different dp design worth the extra $1000?

This money is starting to burn a hole in my checking account.
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:14 PM   #2
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id probally go with the fm kit. its a 1000$ cheaper,why not.

i dont like those air scoopers.and you can probally make a coolant reroute foe $100.
i dont know what a distibution block is ,sorry on that one.
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I'm only considering build quality. I don't want to deal with welds cracking and **** like that. If I went with FM, I can get exhaust and a clutch for the difference.
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I've also thought about not buying an intercooler from either one, and getting a track dog racing IC, since Gary is my sister's neighbor, and I may be able to get a better price than the advertised one.
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Man i love the TD IC setups and if you've got the bank and hook up to get one I say go FM or BEGI and do that. You can make your own scooper and do your own reroute later on.
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:29 PM   #6
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Go with the BEGi kit.

Your getting a better downpipe,manifold,oil & water lines.

Just a overall better engineered kit than the FM kit.
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:33 PM   #7
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Go with the BEGi kit.

Your getting a better downpipe,manifold,oil & water lines.

Just a overall better engineered kit than the FM kit.
Are there reliability problems with the FM stuff? I'm going conservative on the tune, so I'm not worried about losing 5hp from the divorced dp...though it is sexy.
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Are there reliability problems with the FM stuff?
Have no idea.

It's too early for any problems to come up yet.

However if any problems do/did arise,I'm sure the FM nutswingers that purchased the "new" FM kit would not report it publically for all to see.
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Have no idea.

It's too early for any problems to come up yet.

However if any problems do/did arise,I'm sure the FM nutswingers that purchased the "new" FM kit would not report it publically for all to see.
Another reason I don't want the FM ****...and why do they have to put their name on everything?
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Another reason I don't want the FM ****...and why do they have to put their name on everything?
Advertisement,plain & simple.

If you don't want the FM kit,just go with the BEGi kit.

You do have a choice.
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Why not buy a turbo, manifold, and downpipe of your choice from Begi. Then run an ebay intercooler n piping? You have megasquirt running right?
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Why not buy a turbo, manifold, and downpipe of your choice from Begi. Then run an ebay intercooler n piping? You have megasquirt running right?
I haven't even purchased it yet. I want to mechanically bolt and go, I don't want to get stuck welding and ****, because it won't be pretty or reliable.
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Advertisement,plain & simple.

If you don't want the FM kit,just go with the BEGi kit.

You do have a choice.
a $1000 difference though.
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if it was me doing it again, id do what akaryrye said. except find a good deal on a 2560 somewhere.
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a $1000 difference though.
Yes I know,but remember your getting a better designed and proven reliable kit.

Not to mention the coolant re-route and the water by-pass and all the other extra things that the FM kit does not have.
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Yes I know,but remember your getting a better designed and proven reliable kit.

Not to mention the coolant re-route and the water by-pass and all the other extra things that the FM kit does not have.
has anyone actually confirmed the re-route is a true re-route? It looks to me like water still comes "out" the front of the head.
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^ Not sure,Stephanie might want to answer this one.

I will be getting the BEGi re-route soon( just need more money).
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where do the water lines come from, that feed the turbo? How does everyone tap into them?

I've emailed begi twice on the coolant re-route, and they don't answer. The more I think about it...diy might be better in the long run, but will take forever.
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a $1000 difference though.
But it also comes with more stuff: coolant bypass & reroute, air scooper, radiator cowl plate, etc. If you remove the cost of the added parts and compare just the hard parts, the BEGi kit is close to FM's in price. IMO the idea of going with BEGi's core components and TD's FMIC is very appealing.

Plus, you'll actually get your BEGi stuff. :gay:
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BEGI, but you can also delete things
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