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Ben 03-19-2007 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 94189)
oh, sick. I might end up doing that instead. Does link make any more power on a naturally aspirated engine? I'm going to probably end up running the 1.8 NA for a while, before the forced induction comes.

I thought you had a 1.6? Did you do a 1.8 swap and are still runing the 1.6 electronics?

The Link would get rid of the AFM, play with timing, and trim fuel at the top end. It would definitely make more power, and also make the car drive nicer. It would also run your injection sequentially which will give nicer idle, better throttle response, and a little better economy.

What's uber cool, is that when you go from NA to turbo, you'd simply scroll to the base map selection menu, change the setting from NA to TURBO and hit the LOAD button, and you've got your base map, and you're off and driving.

jayc72 03-19-2007 05:45 PM

I think he's planing on a 1.8 swap.

jayc72 03-19-2007 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 94193)
I have a swap car, so if I dumped it off, then I'm stuck with a motor at 150k, open rear end, and little brakes.

I'm probably too stressed to be thinking about this garbage anyway.

I didn't say dump the entire thing. Just the motor.

hustler 03-19-2007 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 94194)
I thought you had a 1.6? Did you do a 1.8 swap and are still runing the 1.6 electronics?

The Link would get rid of the AFM, play with timing, and trim fuel at the top end. It would definitely make more power, and also make the car drive nicer. It would also run your injection sequentially which will give nicer idle, better throttle response, and a little better economy.

What's uber cool, is that when you go from NA to turbo, you'd simply scroll to the base map selection menu, change the setting from NA to TURBO and hit the LOAD button, and you've got your base map, and you're off and driving.

I have the car sitting in my garage, and its been there since november (I travel for work).

I was planning on running the stock 1.6 electronics on the 99 motor when the swap goes down.

That's bad ass. I wish I could find a good deal on a used link. Does link use a wideband?


I'm stressing about this because I want to get it ordered now. I will requeste 2 weeks off in June to do the swap, turbo job, engine management install, tune, then run a miata event in dallas...and the car will sit again until "miatas at hallett."

If I'm just going to have a shitty, stock 1.6, what is the point of even going to the race track?

hustler 03-19-2007 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 94199)
I didn't say dump the entire thing. Just the motor.

No way...its like buying a v6 mustang, and thinking it will run with the cobras.

Ben 03-19-2007 05:52 PM

Yes, if integrate a wideband it will run full time closed loop fueling like the AEM and Hydra.

hustler 03-19-2007 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 94204)
Yes, if integrate a wideband it will run full time closed loop fueling like the AEM and Hydra.

Well, anyone in the market to sell a used link? Do I have to run something like the lc-1, or just a wide-band sensor?

That would save me alot of time, and I won't have to deal with a wiring mess, losing the AC, and won't have to make hall sensor / wheel.

Ben 03-19-2007 06:04 PM

They come up from time to time. TurboTim just sold his, I wish I had purchased it, it would have saved me some money. FM has them sometimes, too. I think people trade them in for Hydras, but I know for a fact they don't have any used 1.6 Links right now.

I went with the Link because its installation was the easiest and support is the best. Even though it is not the most powerful ECU.
Of course the one I received was faulty, and I'm waiting on a new ECU board, so we'll see how it goes....

hustler 03-19-2007 06:08 PM

cool.


Sometimes I worry about dying out here, living out of a suit case. I really just want to get this car together, and take it to the track when I fly back home for a few days. Sometimes I don't know if I can go another day, living out of a suit case.

gwilo 03-19-2007 06:09 PM

If you do go with the Link it does work with any Wideband O2.

If you chose to go with a BEGi kit with the Link let Bell know as they can taylor make the intake plumbing to work with the MAP when you remove the AFM.

jayc72 03-19-2007 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 94202)
No way...its like buying a v6 mustang, and thinking it will run with the cobras.

WTF are you talking about?

I suggested selling the 1.8 so you'd have more funds avalible to turbo the 1.6. Whining about it will not make things magically fit with in your $5K budget.

Sell the 1.8 motor, skip the exhaust would probably free up nearly half the cost of a new ECU.

I personally don't think you need the 1.8 to go fast.

hustler 03-19-2007 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 94214)
I personally don't think you need the 1.8 to go fast.

then I'm still left with a motor at 150k miles, and that's not going to last long.

magnamx-5 03-19-2007 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 94217)
then I'm still left with a motor at 150k miles, and that's not going to last long.

As much as you get to drive the car though you can do the install and put 20-30K miles on it than over the winter or whatevder get the motor out and have someone rebuild the 1.6 for you for 2K dollars with forged internals etc. then you have a new strong 1.6 and you have spread the cost out.
It realy seems the jobs you do are wearing you thin man maybe you should put in for a transfer or figure out something where you can be hapier.

hustler 03-19-2007 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 94232)
As much as you get to drive the car though you can do the install and put 20-30K miles on it than over the winter or whatevder get the motor out and have someone rebuild the 1.6 for you for 2K dollars with forged internals etc. then you have a new strong 1.6 and you have spread the cost out.
It realy seems the jobs you do are wearing you thin man maybe you should put in for a transfer or figure out something where you can be hapier.

Actually, I went home for 1 day. My roommate is buying a house, I miss my dog, I want to go to the racetrack with my sister, and I've got a decent chunk of change that even if I spend on the car, I won't ever get to enjoy it because I live out of a suitcase.

I need a teet to suckle.

User Name 03-19-2007 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by jhoexp (Post 93840)
FM reply to your e-mails.
BEGi does NOT.


:td:

I've found Begi to have the best customer service by far.

magnamx-5 03-19-2007 07:24 PM

Ok then here you go.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/at...1&d=1173279824 I hope mark doesnt mind. If he does i can remove it.

spike 03-19-2007 07:45 PM

^posting nudies is a big no no on this forum,it could get Philip in trouble.

magnamx-5 03-19-2007 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by spike (Post 94246)
^posting nudies is a big no no on this forum,it could get Philip in trouble.

uh dude this was posted by mark like amonth ago i just inserted it. into this thread dont make no trouble where none is needed. If mark wants us to have his wifes pics then so be it. He is obviusly very proud of her. And phillip can always remove them as well.

spike 03-19-2007 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 94247)
uh dude this was posted by mark like amonth ago i just inserted it. into this thread dont make no trouble where none is needed. If mark wants us to have his wifes pics then so be it. He is obviusly very proud of her. And phillip can always remove them as well.

I guess I missed the original post that Mark made.


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