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thirdgen 04-05-2011 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by Pusha (Post 710546)

No, I ain't mad. I just like stirrin the pot, as do you. I don't keep tabs, but when did you get that red miata? How pissed were your parents when you told them you were gay?

nitrodann 04-05-2011 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by WonTon (Post 710541)
Thats like saying they could have put a better intake on there or even a more free flowing exhaust. They cant cause they have to stick to certain standards. Im sure if they could have they would have slapped a begger displacement engine in there, but that would change the classing of the car. (Isnt there some kinda tax overseas based on your engine displacement?)

Thing is, on horsepower freak builds people tend to swap to a bigger TB to get rid of the bottle neck. Same principle as removing the cat to get better flowing exhaust.

The more air and fuel you can get in and exhaust out, the more eficient your setup will be and make some kind of power!

It is a bottleneck on a big power setup, its NOT on a stock engine, and unlike a better manifold mazda choosing to use a bigger TB is FREE!

Dann

pusha 04-05-2011 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 710550)
No, I ain't mad. I just like stirrin the pot, as do you. I don't keep tabs, but when did you get that red miata? How pissed were your parents when you told them you were gay?

I've had my '91 Miata for almost two years, bitch. I own three Miatas and my parents know I'm not gay because I always introduce girls I fuck to them on the way out the next morning. WHAT DID YOUR DAD SAY WHEN HE CAUGHT YOU SIPPING OUT OF HIS CUM JAR? FAGqueerGOT.

thirdgen 04-05-2011 02:36 AM

LOL!!!
Where do you come up with this stuff?!! This is funny shit! My dad's cum jar? Who's dad keeps a cum jar!?! BTW, the gay reference didn't actually mean that you were seriously gay...it was simply a miata reference. I'm not sure how you missed that one with your huge intelligence, but maybe next time you'll get it!

pusha 04-05-2011 02:38 AM

Read between the lines:

| FUCK YOU |

WonTon 04-05-2011 02:39 AM

yall is makin me lulz!

Savington 04-05-2011 02:42 AM

Posts like this are literally dragging the quality of this forum down.


Originally Posted by WonTon (Post 710529)
just throwing out numbers here:

If you have a stock TB thats 60mm, that 60mm hole is feeding 4 cylinders. Your TB is your bottle neck. not to mention having to spread that air across 4 cylinders.

Tell me more about the 4-cylinder 4-stroke motor that is filling all 4 cylinders with air at the same time.

ONE cylinder fills at a time. You are filling ONE cylinder through a 60mm hole - assuming your ports and runners aren't more restrictive (they are).


If you have ITBs that are 40mm, thats 160mm feeding the engine divided by 4. so technically you have the ability to feed more air into the engine and with short straight runners you get that supply faster.
Your geometry teacher would like to have a word with you. 40mm diameter x 4 does not equal 160mm diameter.

thirdgen 04-05-2011 02:45 AM

An engine is basically a vacuum pump...so why are those numbers wrong? 40mm per cylinder, 1 complete engine cycle. What am I missing?

pusha 04-05-2011 02:46 AM

x


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 710558)
what am i missing?

A DESIRE FOR FEMALE CONTACT

thirdgen 04-05-2011 02:49 AM

LOL!!!! This guy is on fire!!!!

pusha 04-05-2011 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 710560)
LOL!!!! This guy is on fire!!!!

Just like your boyfriend's dick.

thirdgen 04-05-2011 02:50 AM

I was getting ready to settle down and possibly get some sleep, but everytime Pusha replies...all I do is start laughing my ass off!

WonTon 04-05-2011 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 710557)
All wrong. Think about how an engine works for 5 minutes and you'll understand why you're 100% wrong.

:giggle:

I knows how a engine works. It sucks in fuel and air, it compresses it, then spark and combustion which pushes the piston back down and the process reapeats.

I was just giving general numbers describe the differance between drawing air from a plenum (that fills with air through a TB) and drawing air from an open source (that get pulled through 4 individual TBs).

fact of the matter is you net gains from a ITB setup wont be much more than what you can get from IHE. It just more exspensive, better throttle response and sounds cool.



Isnt one of the keys to making power better flow?

thirdgen 04-05-2011 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by Pusha (Post 710561)
Just like your boyfriend's dick.

See what I mean?
1) How would he know i have a boyfriend? (His next response will be something like "cause you're gay".)
2) How would he know if my boyfriend's dick would be on fire unless it was in his mouth after he ignited a shot of Bacardi 151?
3) Quit while you're ahead...oh wait...you'll never be ahead of me, Fuck Face.

WonTon 04-05-2011 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 710557)
Your geometry teacher would like to have a word with you. 40mm diameter x 4 does not equal 160mm diameter.

40+40=80

80+80=160

so 40x4=160

:confused:

WonTon 04-05-2011 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 710557)
Posts like this are literally dragging the quality of this forum down.

ONE cylinder fills at a time. You are filling ONE cylinder through a 60mm hole - assuming your ports and runners aren't more restrictive (they are).

I give up. :facepalm:

I know the concept in my head, It just not easy for me to type/spit it out to explain to somone else.

thirdgen 04-05-2011 03:02 AM

Wait...he's right. It doesn't equal 160mm, but then again a 60mm throttle body on a stock intake won't equal 360mm per cycle either. So Wonton, your point is valid...math is wrong.

thirdgen 04-05-2011 03:05 AM

I think what WonTon means is...if a single stock throttle body is flowing 60mm it will disperse that much air over all 4 cylinders. However, if each cylinder is getting a 40mm throttle body, it will flow much more air per cylinder.

Bond 04-05-2011 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by WonTon (Post 710565)
40+40=80

80+80=160

so 40x4=160

:confused:

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

WonTon 04-05-2011 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 710568)
Wait...he's right. It doesn't equal 160mm, but then again a 60mm throttle body on a stock intake won't equal 360mm per cycle either. So Wonton, your point is valid...math is wrong.

I suck at math....


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