Originally Posted by WonTon
(Post 711106)
Bernoulli's principle, Check! (more reading material for another sleepless night) :bigtu:
I know that all 4 cylinders do not fire on the same stroke. This is how I thought it was. http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-inline-4.gif The firing order is 1423 for a miata, right? well the video below is 1324 Think about how a firing order of 1423 would work with relation to the crankshaft, it'd be horribly unbalanced. |
Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
(Post 711157)
No the Miata's firing order is 1,3,4,2
Think about how a firing order of 1423 would work with relation to the crankshaft, it'd be horribly unbalanced. |
Fastest moving thread ever?
Despite everything Ive typed here I do hope he does it just so we can all be that much wiser about it. Dann |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 711102)
-The volumes of air have absolutely no effect or bearing on the theory and effects being discussed
-Opening the airway does NOT always improve airflow. Please review Bernoulli's principle. |
Originally Posted by nitrodann
(Post 711381)
Fastest moving thread ever?
Despite everything Ive typed here I do hope he does it just so we can all be that much wiser about it. Dann I fully enjoyed the debate however. Thank you for your good participation in it. Thank you Sav as well. I hope the OP is not completely put off by what some have said about building a stout naturally aspirated motor. I have had a lot of satisfaction with my N/A. It can be very rewarding even if it is not the fastest car in the bunch, and the fact that it can be expensive. Just a totally different experience. |
I'm not thrown off by anything stated in this thread, I'm just glad there are the amount of members on this site who have good educated responses. Will I say "forget the ITB idea?" Not sure yet. Maybe someday I'll do it, but right now my turbo setup has been on the car for years, and I'm sure it'll be there a few more.
What I really need is another Miata, one with turbo and the other with ITB's. Before that though, I need a bigger garage, I need to finish my Willys project, I need to finish my Triumph project, and then some. My car also has 150,000 miles on it, and it should get new rings and have the head gone over. If I pull it to do all that, then I might go high comp pistons and part out the turbo setup, but that's deep into the unset future. |
If you want to try ITB's don't forget it, I say try it out.
However, you just listed literally 4 or 5 projects that you are doing or want to finish, lol. I'd get those done first, then find a nice 90-93 chassis (lightest) and do a ITB's on high compressed VVT motor. That should make for a nice car. Good luck. |
Straight out of A. Graham Bells 'Four stroke performance tuning':
(Page 28) Throttle Plate requirements, Size Maximum N/A Horsepower ATW 50mm 170 56 210 62 260 70 330 etc etc How big is a stock TB plate? Dann |
Originally Posted by VitaminD
(Post 710545)
why would you spend all the money to set up ITB's when you could have a cheap satisfying turbo?
:2cents: oops thought i was reading a more recent discussion lmfao |
IRTB's are neat but I always just saw them as the last thing you should do to an engine due to the cost vs performance. When I say last I mean grab all of the low hanging fruit first. I think a built, full bolt on VVT would be way more fun than a stock motor on IRTB's.
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