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neogenesis2004 02-06-2008 04:55 PM

I've awaken the BEAST!!!!
 
Holy fuck.....

My motor sounds BADASSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

I just started it for the first time, and the 260deg cams are pretty damn loppy, I can't stop laughing. I am gonna try to get a camera with a decent sound so you all can hear it.

For those of you that aren't familiar with the build......go fuck yourselves :P
Seriously though, it has the following:

-MiataRoadster.com billet oil pump gears
-8.5:1 wiseco pistons
-Belfab (949Racing, take your pick...) Rods
-My own custom headwork (see results in braineacks dyno thread)
-Coated pistons, coated chambers, coated exhaust ports
-Custom ground cams from Integral cams, 263dur/9.8mm lift
-Shim under bucket solid lifter conversion
-Complete supertech valvetrain
and a bunch of other shit I'm sure I spent a fortune on...


Anyways, I also got a new job recently that pays like 3x what I'm currently making. For those also familiar with my inability to decide and keep what turbo I want to run will be happy to know that I will finally be able to afford to get the gt2871r or gt3071r that I really want!


Someone smack this smile off my face!

Brian

cjernigan 02-06-2008 04:57 PM

I want to hear it already. Congratulations.

Oscar 02-06-2008 04:57 PM

nice
needs more pics tho ;)

neogenesis2004 02-06-2008 04:59 PM

Also, question....

Would a loppy idle cause the oil pressure gauge to wiggle very slightly, constantly? I hear no ping at all, I'm getting 13.3afr, and the motor runs great otherwise. Actually all the needles are vibrating a little.....ground maybe?

EDIT: I also have mmr mounts installed.

that7guy 02-06-2008 04:59 PM

OOOHhhhhh YEEEEAAAaa...........


BowChika WowWow

Ben 02-06-2008 05:04 PM

nice. i could see a lopey idle affecting oil pressure. you might need a vac can for your brake booster and other vac fed items.

neogenesis2004 02-06-2008 05:07 PM

Is that basically just an air tank in line to act as a reservoir?

Ben 02-06-2008 05:12 PM

Yes.
My dad's 442 had no brakes at idle after he put the custom cam in. The vac canister did the trick. :)

kotomile 02-06-2008 05:22 PM

In for video, I want to hear this beast!

miatamania 02-06-2008 07:42 PM

videos or ban....or I just steal it..up to you.

JDMAflac 02-06-2008 07:44 PM

Congrats on the build, awaiting sound clips

bryantaylor 02-06-2008 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 210427)
Also, question....

Would a loppy idle cause the oil pressure gauge to wiggle very slightly, constantly? I hear no ping at all, I'm getting 13.3afr, and the motor runs great otherwise. Actually all the needles are vibrating a little.....ground maybe?

EDIT: I also have mmr mounts installed.

its just the motor mounts. i have the MMR ones too, and my tach alone jumps like 300rpm, and all of the other guages wiggle, just not as much

patsmx5 02-06-2008 08:10 PM

You can't start a thread with the first sentence

"Holy fuck.....My motor sounds BADASSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"
and then not post a vid or sound clip. Come on now your kill'n us.

Mach929 02-06-2008 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 210529)
You can't start a thread with the first sentence and then not post a vid or sound clip. Come on now your kill'n us.

+1, need vids now

budget racer 02-06-2008 08:24 PM

lookin good NEO

Toddcod 02-06-2008 08:44 PM

Looks sweet! I bet it will SCREAM!!!!

Braineack 02-06-2008 09:03 PM

he sent me a vid VIA cell phone, but i cant resend it to my email cause it says its too large :(

y8s 02-06-2008 09:49 PM

schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet brian. i want this kind of awesome in my car fast.

one of you guys send me the phone vid and i'll upload it to youtube.

edit: did you get my email about the gasket? I can paypal whenever.

neogenesis2004 02-06-2008 09:52 PM

I was working on the car all day yesterday and then once Igot off work today. I totally forgot to go to the stealership. I'll go tomorrow.

ajtopal 02-06-2008 09:59 PM

pics plz

neogenesis2004 02-08-2008 07:54 AM

Just to let you Aholes know, I'll be picking up a new digicam when I get off work today. It will sadly be one of my last purcahses on my employee discount before the new job starts on monday :(

Ben 02-08-2008 08:21 AM

you should get the discount through the end of the pay period :)

ps, hook me up with some hd dvds :):)

Braineack 02-08-2008 08:37 AM

shoot, hook me up with dslr!

m2cupcar 02-08-2008 09:13 AM

dude at triple the pay, we're gonna get some high def vid of this beast...right?! :cool:

TurboTim 02-08-2008 09:26 AM

Sounds wicked awesome. I'm in for some vids too!

Braineack 02-08-2008 09:32 AM

duh i forgot i can download the video off my phone straight to my cpu.....brb

Newbsauce 02-08-2008 09:42 AM

I don tknow if the cam phone will put out a good sound... mine sounded all distorted

Braineack 02-08-2008 10:01 AM

no it sounds like shit


m2cupcar 02-08-2008 10:37 AM

it's like the default engine audio for mobiles - my 2.3 sounded the same when I did mobile video for it on the first start.

miatamania 02-08-2008 11:22 AM

oh noes...:(

Bryce 02-08-2008 11:32 AM

Get a Canon HV20 and upload the vid to vimeo.com

TurboTim 02-08-2008 11:43 AM

Please delete that video, it makes this thread worse.

Mach929 02-08-2008 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 211374)
Please delete that video, it makes this thread worse.

+1 i think my dick crawled back inside

Newbsauce 02-08-2008 08:32 PM

Someone should just ban brian for prolonging this. +bump.

neogenesis2004 02-08-2008 09:04 PM

Here you go you bunch of flamers!


neogenesis2004 02-08-2008 09:05 PM

and of course I can fucking get it to work....i fail

neogenesis2004 02-08-2008 09:10 PM

wait it works now.

I had forgotten to plug in the map line when I took the vid, so the motor was running mad rich. Thats basically what it sounds like right now. I cant get it to idle below 1200rpm, and I'm pretty sure my wb o2 sensor is done for. So I'm ordering a new sensor and it will stay on jack stands until it gets here.

Braineack 02-08-2008 09:11 PM

i fix i fix.

neogenesis2004 02-08-2008 09:12 PM

Mind telling me what you changed? I followed the writeup....

cjernigan 02-08-2008 09:14 PM

Sounds awesome, i'm liking it.

Braineack 02-08-2008 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 211645)
Mind telling me what you changed? I followed the writeup....

you dont need all the wwwwwww. crap, just video id, like the 0324sdaff24lx2

neogenesis2004 02-08-2008 09:19 PM

aight, scotteeeeeeeeeee. You should drive down here on sunday and bring your o2 sensor and help a brotha out. I'll help you work on your car next week in return :)

l_bader 02-08-2008 09:48 PM

How about a vid/sound clip from the opposite end of the car? You know, the head turning, on the street, hood ain't up exhaust note...


- L

neogenesis2004 02-08-2008 09:54 PM

How about you ship me a bosch wideband o2 sensor nextday so that I can tune it then??? :)

Believe me, I want to hear/see/drive it on the street much worse than you want to. Alot of the loudness and reverb in the vid is because it is mounted on mmr mounts and the car is on jack stands. So the shocks are absorbing 0 vibrations. The car is just vibrating making all kinds of noise. But the video gives you a general idea of what it sounds like.

l_bader 02-10-2008 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 211656)
How about you ship me a bosch wideband o2 sensor nextday so that I can tune it then??? :)

Believe me, I want to hear/see/drive it on the street much worse than you want to.

Anywhere as much as I want to hear/see/drive mine?

Yet, even un-tuned, the potential exists to bypass some of the clatter, rush and general mayhem overheard in front of an open engine bay and stand at the rear of the car with a digital camera for a couple of seconds. - Call it an A/V appetizer...

- L

(And before you ask, no I don't (yet) have a YouTube account...)

neogenesis2004 02-10-2008 10:46 PM

Well, I figured out today that my wb is infact reading correctly. The wild afrs at idle are due to the unburnt fuel leaving the cylinders at idle because of the larger overlap. Unburnt fuel = wb reading lean for those not in the know.

So I tuned the idle by smell and plugs, I got it down to ~900rpm, but it surges to 1100rpm every few seconds and then dies back down again. I'm gonna mess with it more tomorrow night and hopefully get a more proper vid like Senor Bader requires :P

patsmx5 02-10-2008 11:23 PM

If your trying to get it to idle smoothly with larger cams, open the throttle a little more and retard timing to slow it back down, that will smooth it out and take the lumpiness away, though that's the wicked awesome part about it. Sounds good.

AbeFM 02-11-2008 02:50 AM

Every time I read about "hot" miata cams, I run into the issue of not knowing what the stockers are like... :-)

Savington 02-11-2008 05:02 AM

thread delivers. Get a big turbo on there so we can see what those cams will really do.

Someone had better figure out a hot cam setup soon, since I need someone to copy later this year ;)

y8s 02-11-2008 10:08 AM

Brian, do you need just the WB sensor or the whole thing? I have a TechEdge languishing in my garage. But I want to keep it complete.

Braineack 02-11-2008 11:13 AM

i gave him my sensor yesterday to try, same result. unless his controller somehow died in the meantime.

neogenesis2004 02-11-2008 05:31 PM

Its def not the sensor. I'm gonna bleed the clutch and take it around the block a couple times tonight.

neogenesis2004 02-13-2008 07:43 PM

I'm bleeding the clutch now and I've got a question. With an open diff, would the drive wheels turn with the tranny in gear and the clutch engaged, turning the wheels manually?

My thought is No, but I've just adjusted the lever all the way out and it has tons of free play. So the lever is not pushing it open and keeping it disengaged. I also know 100% that the clutch is installed correctly!

neogenesis2004 02-13-2008 08:59 PM

Ok, so I figured out that it was just doing it because its an open diff. So I got my mom to come out there and we both turned the wheel toward the front of the car and it holds solid.

Now the problem is that the clutch doesnt seem to disengage all the way. I have blead the clutch a solid 15 minutes and yet it still has a ton of free play. I'd say it only has like 2" from engagement to hiting the floor. Yes, they clutch lever is all the way out.

y8s 02-13-2008 09:45 PM

what kinda clutch?

you may have resistance at the wheels if you turn them by hand but not enough engagement to move the car.

patsmx5 02-13-2008 09:52 PM

I know you say it's 100% correct, so take this as you wish. I've seen people install the clutch fork wrong before and it causes problems. Sometimes they are in backwards, sometimes it's not holding the TO bearing properly. There could be a problem there. Also are you SURE it's not disengauging, as in the car takes off if you crank it in 1st gear with the clutch in?

neogenesis2004 02-13-2008 10:09 PM

I'm doing these tests with it on jack stands... Its a clutchnet clutch. 3x PP and 6 puck disc

The clutch is installed 100% correctly! I'm not lying, I've installed bunches of clutches. It is not rocket science. I'll leave that at that.

Both the master and slave were brand new during the install. Is there anything special I need to do the make sure that all the air is bled out of both?

patsmx5 02-13-2008 10:12 PM

Did you bench bleed the new master cylinder? You know you have to do that, right?

neogenesis2004 02-13-2008 10:15 PM

That I did not know. What is the procedure for that?

Push cylinder in all the way, dunk fitting end into brake fluid, let cylinder come out?

patsmx5 02-13-2008 10:20 PM

You put it in a vise, fill it up with fluid, dunk the out line into the reservior and SLOWLY push the clylinder in, hold it for 10 seconds, slowly release it. Repeat several times till no air comes out. THen do it a few more times. That's it.


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