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Ben 10-30-2007 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tom's customer
Thanks Ben, I bought those injectors you gave me the link to.

It's extremely easy to change injectors so I'll take them with me to the dyno and that way I'll have them when I go.

Thanks so much for the link and help.

Mark

PS. At the moment, I hadn't done anything with ignition timing. Tom said just to retard the timing by like 4 degrees and see how it is instead of buying an ignition timing card right now.

i'm assuming I'm going to need one. My other question to you is what do you think of a Bipes controller other than the ignition timing card Tom sells?

Thanks again.

Background info:
This PM is from one of Tom's customers. Tom first told him that he does not need to change his injectors to run 210 whp on his stock 95 fuel system. Now he's telling him to knock back timing instead of getting ignition management?

MiaTurbo 10-30-2007 09:52 PM

I want some peking duck.

bryantaylor 10-30-2007 10:11 PM

i just replied too. damn used car salesmen over there.

Joe Perez 10-31-2007 11:21 AM

I haven't been real active over there lately as I'm traveling on business all this week. Lots and lots of dreadfully boring meetings. However we've been dining well- last night I had brazed duck with cherry sauce. Absolutely wonderful.

Braineack 10-31-2007 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 169166)
Background info:
This PM is from one of Tom's customers. Tom first told him that he does not need to change his injectors to run 210 whp on his stock 95 fuel system. Now he's telling him to knock back timing instead of getting ignition management?


4° good lord. engine management at it's best.


Not everyone needs power though Ben, they buy the supercharger so they can retard timing and end of with stock power, duh.

Newbsauce 10-31-2007 11:50 AM

This is by far the funniest thread in a long time.

Joe Perez 10-31-2007 02:24 PM

... and now I'm getting jumped on by Tom over in the FI forum where, as far as I can tell, I was positive and complimentary of the TimingThingy!
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=256306

Efini~FC3S 10-31-2007 02:54 PM

twas a good read.

I lol'd at a couple of Joe's bird comments.

I too love eating duck, mmmmmm so good.

Braineack 10-31-2007 04:37 PM

im not sure tom's going to like my last post.

Ben 10-31-2007 04:42 PM

Dude, did you not see this one?
#70

Braineack 10-31-2007 04:45 PM

no i didn't ;)

Ben 10-31-2007 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Tom@FFS
Pat, I don't know. If Joe thinks the stock ECU has barometric compensation to 20 PSI, then his questions follow the same level of comprehension of how things work.

un-fucking-believable
I have no response.

Ben 10-31-2007 05:35 PM

OK, yeah I did :gtfo:

Atlanta93LE 10-31-2007 05:53 PM

The worst part to me is that, after all the debate, more lemmings are flocking to the PC lineup. Unbelievable; it's the "Consumer Reports" mentality.

Efini~FC3S 10-31-2007 08:29 PM

p.s. ytboy4ever is my handle on m.net

posting over there is a waste of time.

bryantaylor 10-31-2007 09:33 PM

that tom guy is a dumbass. just wow.

PAT! 11-01-2007 09:49 AM

"Sometimes people use the term "Map" based to refer to the rows and columns use in old technology controls like the Split Second."

"The PC-Pro technology does have MAP but not Map. No cells, no rows, no columns. It is all done by 21st century equations."

"There are 8 lights to show settings and the RPM zones are 1* per light."

3 buttons and 8 lights? AND 21st century equations?! Sure beats the hell out of using a 3d map!

socal pat 11-01-2007 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 169625)
p.s. ytboy4ever is my handle on m.net

posting over there is a waste of time.

Especially when you're out of your league. Sorry man, but you aren't ready to take Bill to task over theory or real-world tuning. He will hand you your ass in a debate.

Efini~FC3S 11-01-2007 06:42 PM

I was never trying to debate anyone, just making comments.

MiaTurbo 11-05-2007 10:03 AM

bunch of trouble makers, lol


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