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Old 02-08-2017, 07:58 PM
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I'm sure they're a decent company but putting bright red rtv on flanges is just 'tarded. At least use black if you're gonna do something silly like that, so it doesn't look as bad
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From the SDBMWCCA autocross at Qualcomm stadium yesterday. Fun!


I spy a really low-hanging resonator. That means you have the GWR long-tube header. Spill the beans! Dyno comparisons?
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160whp on CA91 with my tune, GWR LT and Super Q. Someone with more dyno time and experience could probably get a few more horsepower from it.
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I'm just waiting for a proper Flex Fuel kit and tune for the ND and the BRZ will be going bye-bye. I miss having a convertible.
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
I'm just waiting for a proper Flex Fuel kit and tune for the ND and the BRZ will be going bye-bye. I miss having a convertible.
That would be very nice. I wonder if FM is working on a flex fuel kit for the ND?
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Originally Posted by emilio700
That would be very nice. I wonder if FM is working on a flex fuel kit for the ND?
The hardware itself is simple. Delete the secondary O2 sensor, plug the sensor in there, bang. That's how all the current kits do it for other vehicles.

Guess the demand just isn't there yet.
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dunno which cars you're talking about (brz?) but most modern Subaru's you can't delete the secondary sensor without tripping a heater cel that cannot be erased. they usually delete tgv's and use that to feed the signal, so same general idea
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
dunno which cars you're talking about (brz?) but most modern Subaru's you can't delete the secondary sensor without tripping a heater cel that cannot be erased. they usually delete tgv's and use that to feed the signal, so same general idea
Have you heard of tuning cars before? They change that input.

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EDIT: I mean come on. It's not like you are running an E85 map without a tune. I expected more of you.
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Wat is tuning? Is that like a pc-pro?

*edit: did you read the part about not being able to erase/delete/eliminate the code on newer years?
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I did, but I'm speaking solely from my BRZ experience. And that's exactly what they do, or the EVAP harness. So all the tuners can figure out how to delete the secondary O2 in the BRZ in a tune, but not a WRX/STi?

Let me guess, they are pushing some solution in addition to their tune that fixes it that costs money?
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They use the secondary to aid the primary o2 in fueling algorythms. They cannot be deleted, and even if they were, it would impact/limit the ecu from full range of fueling control. And no, I'm not pushing any sort of solution when I tune these cars. (but I know where you're coming from with that comment, and agree)I don't have much experience with ecutec though so I can't speak for them.
Anyways, back on topic: I'd have figured that flex fuel would be figured out by now by the big tuning shops.
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Ours was one of the first ND's Matt (OV Tuned) tried to setup for E85 in late 2015 but it didn't work on the first few tries. I understand he has a fully dialed E85 tune now. Don't know if he is working on flex fuel but it would make sense.
Ross at AVO has an EcuTek tune for the turbo kit done, just working out the transfer protocols so he can get it into customers cars. So the stock ECU has the capability of dealing with post 100kpa sensor inputs and alternative or heavily tweaked lookup tables.
So I'm guessing flex fuel is possible.
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Flex fuel for the BRZ is implemented in a few ways. The best I've seen uses a control box which intercepts and modifies o2 signal based on input from the flex fuel sensor they provide. Its a clean plug and play installation other than piggy backing off a fuse in the engine bay for power. Then its just a matter of the tuner using ECUtek to set up the parameters in the ECU.

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They really haven't figure out that they can send the flex fuel signal to the ecu with the avcs sensor line if you delete it like some of the custom rom raider roms on the wrxs?
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We're looking at producing a lowered OEM style seat base for the ND.
The details and pricing survey are in this link, I'll update this thread as we go along.
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Reading more about the ND is getting me to want one more and more....
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Then buy mine for cheap. 2016 Sport with 7850 miles. All I used it for was long trips all over CO, TX, and NM. 3M Crystalline tint on the windshield and side windows. White and has the updated top replaced by warranty. Located in NM. PM me if interested.
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I am super upside-down on my ND, so I might just end of keeping it, because I don't want to take a 8k+ hit on it. That would be painful. Plus no one responds after they find out what I would want for it.

So I am stuck between two worlds. Those AVO turbo kits seems pretty damn cool and very reasonably priced. I am about to get $6500 for turning in my VW TDI, so that would pay for the turbo kit and then some. I then run into the issue of having the shitty transmission that could break at any second. I have never had a proper turbo miata, so this would be a first for me. I had an 04 MSM, but it was on the stock ECU, so that was horrendous and undriveable half of the time.

I still haven't seen any user reviews of the kit. It seems to be able to hit the power (flow?) limits of the stock engine. The ND heads don't flow very much, so everyone seems to be capped at roughly 250 whp, but with a nice swell of torque below that.

I have a Sport, so I would still need to add an LSD, upgrade the brakes, add a rollbar, it needs an oil cooler even stock, etc etc. It would be a huge spiral of costs, but damn would it be fun.

The good thing about adding this kit early on is that power goals with have been accomplished and it an can expand from there by porting the head and turning up the boost in the future. As long as a transmission solution is found, of course.

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Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
I am super upside-down on my ND, so I might just end of keeping it, because I don't want to take a 8k+ hit on it. That would be painful. Plus no one responds after they find out what I would want for it.

So I am stuck between two worlds. Those AVO turbo kits seems pretty damn cool and very reasonably priced. I am about to get $6500 for turning in my VW TDI, so that would pay for the turbo kit and then some. I then run into the issue of having the shitty transmission that could break at any second. I have never had a proper turbo miata, so this would be a first for me. I had an 04 MSM, but it was on the stock ECU, so that was horrendous and undriveable half of the time.

I still haven't seen any user reviews of the kit. It seems to be able to hit the power (flow?) limits of the stock engine. The ND heads don't flow very much, so everyone seems to be capped at roughly 250 whp, but with a nice swell of torque below that.

I have a Sport, so I would still need to add an LSD, upgrade the brakes, add a rollbar, it needs an oil cooler even stock, etc etc. It would be a huge spiral of costs, but damn would it be fun.

The good thing about adding this kit early on is that power goals with have been accomplished and it an can expand from there by porting the head and turning up the boost in the future. As long as a transmission solution is found, of course.
Or you could take the hit on the ND, build up your NB, and still have money left in your wallet. Putting more money into something you're annoyed about losing money on is the definition of a sunk cost fallacy lol.
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